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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9131 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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SoCalJes wrote: |
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I got my narrowed trailing arms at aircooled.net over 10 years ago, but they haven't sold them for a long time. I don't know who was building them back then but maybe John can point you in the right direction. |
I've looked everywhere and they seem to be the pink elephant in the room. The closest I've come across are buggy builders but they make them longer not shorter.
Basically I'm just going to buy some chrome moly tubing, the bearing carriers, shafts and build my own. |
Really?????? a search of "narrowed arms" in the classified like NJ John suggested, netted 2 builder who make them and have them in stock. Unless you are an experienced fabricator and REALLY know what you are doing this is not a DIY project. There are several angles that must be EXACT or you will never get the car aligned propperly
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MotoGreg Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2012 Posts: 148 Location: Ladera Ranch, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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There are several angles that must be EXACT or you will never get the car aligned propperly |
I agree. Bugzilla, who did mine, has a jig for doing these. The jig is adjustable so that they can be narrowed whatever amount you want, while maintaining the correct geometry.
By the time you fabricate a jig off of your stock arms, and then buy the new bearing carriers and other materials, you would have been way better off to have just had them narrow your arms for $250. |
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SoCalJes Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2011 Posts: 1093 Location: Broward, FL
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Just spoke with Mark Johnson over at Blind Chicken Racing and he's got a pair so I can skip the whole jig build and the project moves on. _________________ Jesse
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1969BugConvertible Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2014 Posts: 1 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if this will help, but I was wanting to fit a 15X8 Fuch under the rear of my 1969 Bug Convertible and was searching for an answer. I ran across an article in the June 1994 Hot VW's on how to narrow your IRS. As mentioned, it is not simple, but not rocket science. Their method was to cut out the bearing carrier of the trailing arm and move it in 26mm and re-weld. In the article it mentions using Type III automatic transmission, left side only axles as they are 26mm shorter than standard Type 1. I can fill you in more if interested. |
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SoCalJes Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Here is what I did...but if you have info to add I'm sure there are many that would benefit
_________________ Jesse
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9131 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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You need to brace those shock towers back to the rear transmission mount. They were never meant to hold up the rear of the car and will eventually bend at the torsion housing.
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SoCalJes Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not that ive never seen one because its never happened, I've never seen one cause I never seen one...
Are you talking about a truss bar? I have one just haven't installed it yet _________________ Jesse
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Fiatdude Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: now in MO.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I went to the dual pattern discs on my '70 and used 16" teladials Porsche rims -- -- I ended up having to use a 13mm spacer to center the rims and I've put a 225/50R16 in the back with a little bit of fender rolling for clearance
These brakes were bought over a year ago during the build -- IF I to do it over again right now -- I would look for a set of 17" porsche rims and go with the new killer front disc system that Mendeola has out now for the larger rims......
However,,,, My friend, Mike Lawless, made custom trailing arms and went to coil overs and did some mini tubes in the rear and has a 10" tire back there... Now Mikes is a SHOW CAR that runs 9.60's, so if you want to have something that works then Mikes is it -- http://lawlessdesigns.com/wkrswingtoirs.html _________________ Remember, as you travel the highway of life,
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SoCalJes Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Nice job. I've talked to mike before, super nice guy, Im totally into his setup. _________________ Jesse
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Fiatdude Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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The thing keeping me from going wider on the tires is the spring plates, which will have to be removed, and a swap over to coilovers or bagged --- Just didn't want to get into that right now _________________ Remember, as you travel the highway of life,
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SoCalJes Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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I know what you mean, I just took advantage that the body is at the body shop waiting for paint. They were cool enough to let me leave the body there for as long as I need while I do the pans and suspension _________________ Jesse
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