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jlex
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Maybe the loss of power isn't a loss at all.... maybe it's how the car's supposed to be. You may have had all that power because the dist was advanced beyond what it should have been & was giving you more power, but at the expense of a hot running engine.
Shouldn't ping if its timed correctly... too much ethanol in your gas? Tried the next grade higher?
May want to physically check using a straw where TDC is to see if your pulley is marked correctly. Bought a timing light yet? You'll need it if you're going to drive this car.
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DarcoGhia
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| Does anyone know where I can get a new vacuum canister for the 205T? |
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sb001
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Maybe the loss of power isn't a loss at all.... maybe it's how the car's supposed to be. You may have had all that power because the dist was advanced beyond what it should have been & was giving you more power, but at the expense of a hot running engine.
Shouldn't ping if its timed correctly... too much ethanol in your gas? Tried the next grade higher?
May want to physically check using a straw where TDC is to see if your pulley is marked correctly. Bought a timing light yet? You'll need it if you're going to drive this car. |
I appreciate the suggestions, yes I am going to buy a timing light today, and at some point a dwell tach so I can do absolutely 100% correct timing on it. But considering I paid these guys $300 I am probably just taking it back there. It shouldn't have any problems getting up to 70 or so on the interstate even on a slight incline, but right now it does. Before the engine was swapped several years ago I am sure it had a 1500 in it and I had no trouble getting it up to 80 (in my high school days.)  I suppose theoretically it MIGHT supposed to be like this, but I would almost rather have the engine running hot and be able to accelerate around 65 mph trucks or get up over hills safely than leave it like this. I drove it from NW Ark over hilly terrain down to central Ark a few weeks ago, over very hilly terrain on the interstate without any trouble, at some point it will need to be driven back up there and I doubt it will make it if I leave it like this. |
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jlex
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I remember losing lots of power on these PA hills before I adjusted the valves... done an adjustment lately?
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jlex
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| Does anyone know where I can get a new vacuum canister for the 205T? |
I bought a new one about 3 years ago, but it was costly... they're just not around much. Do a general search thru Google. I spent a lot of time viewing web pages for the part before I hit on one or two that had new canisters.
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sb001
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| I remember losing lots of power on these PA hills before I adjusted the valves... done an adjustment lately? |
They did that at the shop-- supposedly. Said they were very tight before working on them and adjusted them to be more open. I had adjusted them myself about 1 1/2 years ago but it has been sitting for about a year while having body work done/repainted so it had really been more like just a few months before the shop did it.
I took it back out today and noticed that the knocking/tapping/ratatatating is very noticeable on acceleration from zero when first driving, but it seems to get quieter at higher speeds AND the more I drive it the quieter it seems to do it on acceleration from stopped. Opinions? |
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ashman40
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| Since your carb + distributor combo was designed for a 1500cc engine |
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Sorry, got the '69 car and the '70 engine mixed up. 
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Thanks for the suggestions, both of you- ashman, sorry I am still a bit confused-
That chart you posted above says that is correct for a 1600cc autostick (albeit a 1970 model not a 1969.) Sorry am I missing something? And since I can't go by the engine case designation I assume from that same chart I need to have this set at 0 TDC. |
Sorry for the confusion. Your understanding is correct.
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jlex
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Are you sure you don't have an exhaust leak? It is sometimes confused with valve train noise. Look under the car to see if you can pinpoint the source of the noise. Black exhaust staining around a connection may give you a lead.
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Juanito84
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| Does anyone know where I can get a new vacuum canister for the 205T? |
You might be able to rebuild it instead. http://www.oddparts.net/1/post/2012/11/cast-iron-manifold-repair.html.
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airoldspeed
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I have a 30hp engine with a 28PICT-1
Can this distribuitor (111-905-205T) works fine with the 28pict-1?
I'm think that maybe can be a good combo because for what I see is vacuum advance only.. right? please some help from the vw dizzy's gods!  |
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tasb
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Bad news: the Bosch vacuum canisters are not easily "rebuilt".
Good news: the used ones are usually still good.
I shudder the though of being a "God". The vacuum canister if original to the 111 905 205 T is not a correct match to a 28 PICT carburetor. The vacuum canister is correctly matched to a 30 PICT carburetor.
Here's where it gets kinda muddy: The 28 PICT carburetors are matched to distributors that start with 111. So why wouldn't the 111 905 205 T work with the 28 PICT carburetor then? I cannot answer that definitively. It seems the 111 905 205 T distributor was issued to cars in Canada and probably some other locals ie: standard models vs. deluxe. Here in the states we got the 113 905 205 T. the 111 vacuum canisters are not interchangeable with the 113 canisters, sorry. The mounting locations on the distributor housings are different. Here's a helpful link:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=307450&highlight=vacuum+discussion
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Glenn 
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| please some help from the vw dizzy's gods! |
What's a "dizzy"?
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Glenn
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| please some help from the vw dizzy's gods! |
What's a "dizzy"?
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Juanito84
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| please some help from the vw dizzy's gods! |
What's a "dizzy"? |
It's a really small guy or animal sitting on the distributor rotor while someome cranks the engine.
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gt1953
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I am getting dizzy trying to figure out what a dizzy is.
Oh wait. Its for people that do not know how to spell distributor or just do not want to.
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Mark's 68
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know where I can get a new vacuum canister for the 205T? |
I have a few NOS vacuum canisters for the 205T and one or 2 for a 205K.
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tasb
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If you're lucky enough to find NOS in the box you are looking for # 07024.
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tasb
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If you're lucky enough to find NOS in the box you are looking for # 07024.
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bnam
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: 111 905 205 T distributor |
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What's the difference between 111-905-205T and 113-905-205T?
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