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triumph67 Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2011 Posts: 139 Location: Lexington,ohio
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: Do I need a camber compensator? |
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I have a 64 bug and i lowered the rearend just 1 outer spline on each side, would i need a camber compensator for the lowering i just did.. The car will just be a daily driver for the summer time just to cruise around. Any input would be greatly helpful.. |
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jhoefer Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 987
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Lowering the car is itself beneficial to countering the jacking effect. That said, I would still add a camber compensator. In my opinion, it's a necessary safety item on all swing axle cars. |
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Inspectorjared Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Fullerton Ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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If you are only one spline lowered in the rear you don't need a camber compensation kit. I am lowered multiple splines and do no have a kit on my bug. |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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You really only need a camber compensator if you are doing any high speed cornering. That said, it's still a great safety item on a S/A car as you never know when you might have to avoid something on the road and have to make a hard turn. Lowering the car doesn't dictate whether you need one or not.
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tatzandrodz Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2013 Posts: 153 Location: Finksburg, MD
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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My '65 is lowered far without anything. If you go low low you def. need to look into notched extended spring plates. (I still need them) you get the wobble wobble from toe in |
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Nevada Notch Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 540 Location: Carson City Nevada
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 66 which is running stock tires at the stock rear ride height. The compensator helped with body roll as I have always felt like I was going to slide into the passenger seat going around a corner. _________________ 1966 Euro
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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A Camber Compensator is like a seat belt or insurance. You only need it once in a while, but when you do need it you BETTER have it!
Its that panic situation when you have only a split second to react that is when you really need that Camber Compensator.
Its that moment before impact when you need that seat belt.
Its that moment AFTER impact you need car insurance.
They are not very expensive, they are easy to install, help a LOT when you really need it, and look cool under the car! Get one and put it on. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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Nevada Notch Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 540 Location: Carson City Nevada
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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drscope wrote: |
A Camber Compensator is like a seat belt or insurance. You only need it once in a while, but when you do need it you BETTER have it!
Its that panic situation when you have only a split second to react that is when you really need that Camber Compensator.
Its that moment before impact when you need that seat belt.
Its that moment AFTER impact you need car insurance.
They are not very expensive, they are easy to install, help a LOT when you really need it, and look cool under the car! Get one and put it on. |
It took me longer to round up the tools and put the car on ramps!
Good cheap insurance in my book! _________________ 1966 Euro
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triumph67 Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2011 Posts: 139 Location: Lexington,ohio
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ill have to put one my shopping list then.. Thanks for the input... |
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BG Brian Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2010 Posts: 175 Location: sw washington
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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You might need to replace the studs on the bottom of your trans where the center pivot mounts with longer ones. I had to do that with the C.B. compensator.I think the empi instructions show replacing with bolts.It might just fit on the existing studs |
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onetuza Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2012 Posts: 579 Location: Sebastian, FL
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Nevada Notch wrote: |
I have a 66 which is running stock tires at the stock rear ride height. The compensator helped with body roll as I have always felt like I was going to slide into the passenger seat going around a corner. |
Whose compensator did you use? _________________ When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather . . . .
Not screaming, like the other passengers in his car! |
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Nevada Notch Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 540 Location: Carson City Nevada
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:02 am Post subject: |
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onetuza wrote: |
Nevada Notch wrote: |
I have a 66 which is running stock tires at the stock rear ride height. The compensator helped with body roll as I have always felt like I was going to slide into the passenger seat going around a corner. |
Whose compensator did you use? |
I used the curved unit with the urethane ends. This actually saved my ass the other day when some moron started to pull out in front of me. Without the compensator, i probably would have rolled the car when I did my swerve maneuver to keep from being hit. _________________ 1966 Euro
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11056 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Rear shock extended travel limit straps (or chains) .. is another method to keep the axle from tucking.
They do nearly the same job without things hanging too low... and no strain on the transaxle case studs...
Yeah you may feel them top out when you're doing jumps.... _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
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onetuza Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2012 Posts: 579 Location: Sebastian, FL
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Well, I went with the one from CB Performance. It's built like a tank.
The distance inside the U-bracket was a tad too tight, so I had to hand file each inner side for an hour or so total. I didn't have a power tool to do the job. Got it to fit snug and bolted her in place. _________________ When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather . . . .
Not screaming, like the other passengers in his car! |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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I installed the same one from CB on my '64 this past weekend.
There's some slack on both sides of the strap in this case. Snug, but I can forcibly move it, which seems correct the way it's built. I may go back and replace the studs on the transmission sides w/bolts. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69827 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:46 am Post subject: |
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vamram wrote: |
I installed the same one from CB on my '64 this past weekend.
There's some slack on both sides of the strap in this case. Snug, but I can forcibly move it, which seems correct the way it's built. I may go back and replace the studs on the transmission sides w/bolts. |
It would be better to install longer studs.
The metal is not designed to have bolts tightened down, you could strip it if it's already weak. _________________ How to Post Photos
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vamram Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I added it to my to-do list for the car for this weekend. Thanks. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
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Speedsterboy Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2004 Posts: 747
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Could you please tell me what size/type the studs are. I'm just about to install mine in a couple of weeks. Thanks! _________________ Are you under the impression you'll live forever? All that shit you're hoarding is meaningless. You never know what's around the corner. Enjoy life now! |
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