Rebel wiring harness questions thread

Dale M. · Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject:

Considering two 65 watt (standard) high beam lamps only draw about 9 amps and with 2 front marker (park) lamps and two rear tail lamps, I can not image main lighting needing more than a 20 amp fuse, the 30 amp seems a little excessive....

IF one really want to get fusing correctly maybe one of these will help you....

http://www.harborfreight.com/30-amp-automotive-fuse-circuit-tester-67724.html

Once you know actual current draw (amperage) of circuit you only need a fuse that has about approximately 25% -30% more capacity than indicated on tool...

So if a circuit was showing a 10 to 11 amp draw a 15 amp fuse would probably be sufficient...

Dale
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T-Buggy · Samba Member Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 37 Location: NM

Amidst all this talk of sizing the fuse based on the load, don't forget that the most important function of the fuse is to protect the wire that leads to the load. Be sure the wire is safe for the size of the fuses you are considering. Prevent your dune buggy from being a hot rod because of fire...

Jeremy1984 · Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject:

BIGMIKEY · Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject:

joescoolcustoms · Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject:

It carries the load just like a stock VW does. The dimmer switch is a stock VW unit from a '66 or ealier.
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sbussard · Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:38 pm Post subject:

VolkswagenGerry · Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:21 am Post subject:

Will a TRIDON EL13 (three prong) or a TRIDON EL12 (two prong) Flasher "plug and play" int the Rebel fuse block?
I am running all LED blinkers.. All is wired correctly but getting no blinky blinky..

Can I instal above mentioned Flasher or do I install Resistors?
Do I put one resistor per left side, one per right side?
Do the resistors need to be near the light or can they come off the switch for example?

Any opinions on the best way to do this.. flasher or resistor..
Cost vs simplistacy vs overall funtion.

VolkswagenGerry · Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject:

I tried the TRIDON EL13 flasher And I got some blinking however it seemed slow and was certainly dim... also seemed to not fully flash "off",
Seemed dimmer then brighter dimmer then brighter...
Do I need to add the resistors?
Anyone>?

joescoolcustoms · Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject:

Yes. You do not have enough resistance to trip the flasher.
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VolkswagenGerry · Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:01 pm Post subject:

Can I try a flasher like this?
http://www.amazon.com/3-Pin-CF-13-Electronic-Flash...+50W+6+OHM

Or resistors like these?
http://www.amazon.com/Resistors-Signal-License-Warning-Cancellor/dp/B004EDF8HY/ref=pd_sbs_auto_4

joescoolcustoms · Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:15 am Post subject:

I would go resistors.

wvbowtieman had the same problem. He ran 58 chevy rear tails with LEDs and LEDs built in the headlight. The resistors fixed the problem.
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Dale M. · Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:05 am Post subject:

Try resistors... Should only need one set on rear....

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Triton flasher need at least .200ma ( 2/10 amp) to operated. LEDS are notorious for not triggering most flashers, though I have always had good luck with Tridon units....

What bothers me is you say lamps do not go completely off... This means to me the you have lamps either wired wrong or have bad grounds..... Triton flashers are normally in OFF state and only come on when there is sufficient current draw (amperage) though
"Lamps/Leds".......

The slight glow of "off state" signals a problem to me and its probably NOT the flasher.... A flasher IS a mechanical switch so to speak, its either off or on through its internal relay contacts...

Where are your grounds connected?

What turn signal switch are you using?

Dale
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PaulzOx · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject:

Has anyone used a connector of any type to make the engine harness a quick disconnect at the body?

If so, which one did you use?

Paul

joescoolcustoms · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject:

I thought about using one of the weather tight connectors I used on my blue buggy that I show on page 1, but it is only 4 connections to disconnent an engine. It takes me longer to disconnect the throttle cable and fuel line than to disconnect the 4 wiring connections.
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Dale M. · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject:

BIGMIKEY · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:06 am Post subject:

laughlin · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject:

I am also considering a rebel wire kit. Question I have is turn signal and hi/lo beam switch hookup. What switch is it designed for or what switch do you guys recommend using. I am a new buggie owner and mine has one in it but I don't think its wired right ir just not working.

joescoolcustoms · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:01 am Post subject:

The Rebel kit I used had the wiring and flasher for 4 way hazard lights. I did not use it in trying to keep the dash as clean as possible.

The turn signal wiring is simple. 5 total wires. two forward, 2 rearward and one power in from the fuse block. I used a three wire signal switch on a stock column and grouped the two left sides together then grouped the two right side together to make 3 total wires. Left side, right side and power in.

The dimmer switch wiring is also simple. 3 wires. Power from fuse block. Low beam to the head light and high beam to the head light. I use the simple stock VW foot 3 wire dimmer switch.

Keep things simple and they will be simple to maintain and fix later down the road.
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jspbtown · Samba Member Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5156

You can wire in the flashers with a simple toggle switch and a special relay and tie it into the wire bundle on the swith like Joe uses.

BIGMIKEY · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:12 pm Post subject:


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