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MURZI Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 5063 Location: Madisonville, La
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Cool kit, but I think I read somewhere the final asking price will be 20K. 3K is withing reach of many, 5K the market shrinks, 7K and it better be close to assembled, 20K and you are targeting the wrong group of folks..... In my opinion. _________________ 62 vert
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Tim’s welded heads
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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MURZI wrote: |
Cool kit, but I think I read somewhere the final asking price will be 20K. 3K is withing reach of many, 5K the market shrinks, 7K and it better be close to assembled, 20K and you are targeting the wrong group of folks..... In my opinion. |
Thus; why many projects end up as one-offs. Nice build, though.
bryan _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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SiggyManx#33 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2005 Posts: 877 Location: Southeast PA
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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MURZI wrote: |
Cool kit, but I think I read somewhere the final asking price will be 20K. 3K is withing reach of many, 5K the market shrinks, 7K and it better be close to assembled, 20K and you are targeting the wrong group of folks..... In my opinion. |
If its 20k, I'm buying a Toyota! |
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ElijahTurtle Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2009 Posts: 86 Location: Watauga, TX
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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If it's 20K I'll just get a couple more buggies instead... |
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bigtonkakid Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2007 Posts: 250 Location: USA HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Is that a custom windshield? _________________ YES, I drove a hardtop Buggy!!! |
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I am proud to say that I licked this personally at the NW Bug Run
Some of you may recall what happened the last time I licked a VW.
http://www.oldbug.com/jeff57sing
This is truly a sight to behold. Hats off to Brandon for creating one of the coolest rides of the century!!!!! _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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Shoyrtt Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 1007 Location: Redlands, CA
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding price, from the FB page comes this note:
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Rob and I think we need to sell the first 5 bodies to people who are willing to pay in full 10k each, this will fund our tooling cost. These collector cars will be worth a lot in the future for those who are willing to take a chance on us. Anyone in ?
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kit includes working doors and front deck lid, glass windshield, removable lexan side glass, door handles, hinges, mirrors and rear lexan window and tonnue cover. body will be paint shop ready, you do your own color. |
And a picture of it at a local show:
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tisius Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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ElijahTurtle wrote: |
If it's 20K I'll just get a couple more buggies instead... |
20k , sorry, but i have a wish list of other new cars to buy for that money _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
.... if it ain't dutch, it ain't much! |
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Shoyrtt Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 1007 Location: Redlands, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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The Smisek Stark made a couple of magazines this month:
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I am doing my best to put the Stark into production. Its a massive undertaking for a garage project on a shoestring budget. I don't want to get rich from it, I just want to see them on the road. I Thank You all for your support and patience. ~Brandon. |
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Shoyrtt Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 1007 Location: Redlands, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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And he is working on integrating as many type 1 parts as possible:
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Nice looking quality of work!
Now - about that price...
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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kitcarguy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 431 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: |
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$10k for the first 5 bodies. You might want to really, REALLY work on that price. You are going to price yourself right out of the market.
Consider for a second that the Factory 5 818R starts at 10k for a body/chassis kit. Yes you still need a donor car and if you are handy with tools there is no reason it cant be driving for 20k. This is for new tech not old.
Unfortunately this car while very cool, will not be a collectors car. No more then any other "limited" production kit car. _________________ www.fiberclassics.org |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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I like it,but not the $$. so whats new?? ridgeline?? avalanch?/ not realy.my wife has a element, this would be nice right next to it. or next to my 356 replica.hmm a second life for my baja!! with AC of corse. I would knock a mold off the element befor I could afford that.and make it a truck style single cab or 4 seater truck style.with a little more aero than the honda. |
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greg mgm Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2004 Posts: 573 Location: Pine Cove/ IdyllwildCA
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not in market research, and don't know what the Stark should end up costing, but because we're on a VW site, here are cost comparisons-
Meyers Manxter 2+2...Bare bones $5895....Standard kit $7995.
Manxter Dualsport.......Basic Kit.....$8545
Kickout Manx Traditional................$4700
Kickout S S Manx..........................$5700
I haven't checked other types of kits, but since Brandon Smisek relates the Stark to a baja, comparing prices to Bruces kits seems appropriate.
BTW, I absolutely love the Stark....and would definitely buy one at the right price (If I had any money ) Great design Brandon! |
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HILLBLAZER1326 Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2013 Posts: 200 Location: Franklin, NC
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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... many people have gone to the website. Price didn't change - still seeking 5 first-adopters at ~ $10k/Each.
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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Art.b Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2013 Posts: 62 Location: New Hudson,Mi
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Nice project. Good luck! _________________ THE MOTOR CITY |
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Wetstuff Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2010 Posts: 700 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:17 am Post subject: |
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My take, after saying; "I like it.", is that it lacks major elements to becoming an iconic break thru ..like the Manx.
Modern power plant - I would have picked an engine that turns on 20-somethings; Subie, Honda, 1.8T
A design that could not generate comments like; "However it does kinda look like a scaled down Honda Ridgeline." It needs to be fresh enough to be copied ..not derivative.
It encapsulates the driver/passenger. People drive something 'this different' to be noticed, to take credit, to be in the Sun, etc.
Having said, you have to give him a tons of credit for the quality of his results. I like it.
Jim _________________ Manx #2614 |
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 3038 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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just enjoy it for what it is...a 1 off that you designed and built and that's probably all it will be..
If you think its the next big thing...you should put it up on ebay or some other big auto auction and sell it to fund the start up of the company...
If its meant to be you'll make 50k off that one and then you'll have your money....if it sells for 5k then you've learned another lesson.... |
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kitcarguy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 431 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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WOW I didnt notice how much it looks like a ridgeline. I still like it, not $10k like it, but do like it. _________________ www.fiberclassics.org |
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