Correct Ivory color code for 1954 pre A

ruvwen

Hi all, I need to fix a few things on my 54 pre-A (lowering the front bumper, inserting the period correct horn grills, etc) and I am going to end up respraying the whole car, as the current color is not 100% correct

Can anyone indicate the correct color code for 1954's ivory color?

Pictures of actual cars in this color would also be extremely appreciated

thanks!

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50 11A
52 11C
52 11C
52 Pre-A convertible
53 11G
54 113
54 151
54 Pre-A
58 typ14
61 typ14 convertible

roy mawbey · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:48 am Post subject:

The 1954 356 coupe painted in Ivory came with Porsche colour code 5404

If you look on www.derwhites356literature.com/porsche356colors.html you will see the full listing.

1950 - 53 cars had Reutter supplied paint numbers. R504

If you see a reference to ' elfenbein' thats German for Ivory. ( I seem to remember there is a reference in this regard to light Ivory.

John Willhoit can supply a sample paint swatch for 5404 to suit your 54 model.

www.willhoitautorestoration.com/paintsamples.php

Hope the above links work for you.

Roy
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Roy
RHD356A super75 106954

bbspdstr · Samba Member Joined: May 11, 2012 Posts: 494 Location: PA

jjjjack · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:30 am Post subject:

What's your chassis number? Are you sure you don't have a '53 MODEL car that was produced or titled in '54? If you do, then your lack of horn grilles is correct!
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Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
IG:j.stenner

ruvwen · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject:

thanks for the answers!

Chassis number is 52XXX and it is a 54 model. It is actually a sunroof model and to the best of my knowledge there were not sunroof cars with the 53 front right?

Guys, I am now doubting if the actual color of my car is Pearl Grey 5407. Can anyone confirm??

thanks again
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50 11A
52 11C
52 11C
52 Pre-A convertible
53 11G
54 113
54 151
54 Pre-A
58 typ14
61 typ14 convertible

jjjjack · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject:

52029 was the last '53 model year chassis number. Supposedly there were no sunroofs in '53, correct, but there was a lot of retrofitting going on back then Smile

Pretty car!
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Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
IG:j.stenner

ruvwen · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject:

jjjjack · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject:

ruvwen · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject:

Original color was actually jade green. Picture from the restoration process where you can see the green color

...but it was changed when restored by the previous owner.

I quite like the current color as it matches nicely the red leather interior, just want to get a similar colour but correct for 1954

actual pictures of cars in ivory and light gray would be extremely appreciated to get to a final conclusion

thanks again
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50 11A
52 11C
52 11C
52 Pre-A convertible
53 11G
54 113
54 151
54 Pre-A
58 typ14
61 typ14 convertible

jjjjack · Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject:

Took me a while to find it, but here's a thread with pics of cars in their original colors. Maybe you'll find an example:

http://porsche356registry.org/356talk/4/73.html

HTH
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Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
IG:j.stenner

roy mawbey · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:43 am Post subject:

Bruce is correct colour matching is difficult. Below four paint swatches of Meissen Blue. My dashboard is original paint.

Twenty five years ago, I found a company in Liverpool that supplied me with an exact colour match swatch. I just presumed that was normal. I painted only the body and the original dash looks perfect to it.

I was asked by several people recently to check their paint Meissen swatches all from different suppliers against my dash. Willhoit was one of them, Glasurit another. The Willhoit one was too blue. Meissen has green in it. Only a little but it shows.

When you look at my photos you can see the difference but its unlikely would do if any of those were used on a 356 and you had no comparison to work from.

The Willhoit sample for Turkish Grey and Ivory are a guide only. Your 54 looks more Ivory to me but has that tinge of the grey. So difficult you need to ask if anyone has the those original colours somewhere on their cars. My colour has not faded as far as I can tell.

Just google ' porsche 356 colours' and you will see Der whites listings, the web address I listed would not open when I tried.

Roy
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Roy
RHD356A super75 106954

54PreA · Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:37 am Post subject:

I Immediately Thought It Looked Like Pearl Grey, (My 54'S Colour With Red Interior) Lovely Colour ..
It Would Probably Have Had A Darker Dash Also, Maybe The Green?
Can You Get A Copy Of The Kardex?
(Sorry About The Capital Letters, On My Phone And It Plays Up!)

ruvwen · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:17 am Post subject:

54PreA · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:17 am Post subject:

Hi Ruvwen, I'll Get Some Pics On As Soon As I Can, Sorry For Late Reply!

ruvwen · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject:

Steve Heinrichs · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

If you tell me privately the chassis number, I can tell you the build date and also figure out the color code.

Steve Heinrichs

ruvwen · Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:00 pm Post subject:

we already started dismantling the car to fix the few cosmetic details that need to be sorted out (lowering front bumper, inserting horn grills, etc)

While dismantling we realised the jack points are different one side to the other.

Can you please let me know which one is correct, if any of the two?

thanks again!!
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50 11A
52 11C
52 11C
52 Pre-A convertible
53 11G
54 113
54 151
54 Pre-A
58 typ14
61 typ14 convertible

jjjjack · Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:55 am Post subject:

If your question is about the edge condition where the rocker makes room for the jack spur, in comparison to mine (which I believe to be original) neither of those look entirely correct. The "swoop" is more gradual. The first image is closer than the second. I'm not where I can take a pic from the same angle as yours, but here's an older shot of mine:

It depends on how far you're going to "detail" things, but one thing I noticed that you might check out is the rear fender openings. From the angle of the full car shot above, they look to be later 356 (ie, higher) rather than Pre-A (could be just an illusion, though). The Pre-A fender line is lower. Looking from the side, the crest of the arch hangs below the edge of the rim, especially on 16s.

HTH
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Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
IG:j.stenner

ruvwen · Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:54 am Post subject:

jjjjack · Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject:

Excellent. That will be a nice improvement. I think that low fender is what makes the early cars so seductive. I'll try to take a picture tomorrow. I'll need to pull it out of the garage and it's been raining for last several days (please come back sun).

Love the race logos on your friends car, too, BTW!
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Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
IG:j.stenner


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