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bluedot
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Our restoration on our ghia is a multi-year one. For the first year or two, I want to drive it in primer - get the mechanicals working great, and most of all have a bunch of fun in it with my partner and airedale terrier - without the worry of a completed "frame off restoration".
So, in the future, I will lose this TMI interior - and have something appropriate done. But in the interim, I would like to find a nice brown or tan carpet set that is cheap, but fits well enough that it works.
What options do we have out in ghia land? |
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Ian Godfrey
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| Newton commercial in the UK have a 'narrow weave' kit that fits very well and is not too expensive. |
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NOVA Airhead
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| Newton commercial in the UK have a 'narrow weave' kit that fits very well and is not too expensive. |
Newton carpets are great if it fits what you are looking for.
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Karl Hunter
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| the best thing to actually do before putting the carpeting down is to use a roll on or spray on truck liner. This gives your flooring the extra protection and also, it looks really nice if you do it correctly. |
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rcooled
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| Ian Godfrey wrote: |
| Newton commercial in the UK have a 'narrow weave' kit that fits very well and is not too expensive. |
The Newton Commercial kits for Karmann Ghias are very nice indeed and their 'narrow weave' style is very close to OEM in both color & texture for a mid-'60s car. They also have very original-looking rubber grommets around the shifter, hand brake and heater outlets, as well as a perfect repro of the rubber mat behind the pedals. I would also recommend going with the vinyl binding rather than cloth.
http://www.newtoncomm.co.uk/cars/vw-karmann-ghia/model-120/
Newton carpet in my '67.
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boinkffd
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| I went with Newton in my Lowlight and am very happy with the fit an quality. Top notch German Square weave carpet set. |
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Newton didn't come in black, so I just ordered a kit from Sewfine. Unfortunately I have nothing to compare it to, but I'll post comments here as I put the carpet in my '64.
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bluedot
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The detailing on this Newton kit is phenomenal. Looks factory, especially compared to the others I've seen.
Is shipping expensive from the UK? |
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kiwighia68
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"Newton carpet in my '67."
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Are the floor carpets in the photo part of the kit? It looks impressive and I need some.
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tlambert
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Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
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c21darrel
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| Are the floor carpets in the photo part of the kit? It looks impressive and I need some |
no. look like coco mats over Newton |
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NOVA Airhead
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Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
I used the Perlon. Looks very much like German Square Weave.
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danielsan
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| tlambert wrote: |
Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
You might also ask in the Porsche forum -- the 914 used perlon and it is easier to get than squareweave.
I went with the newton narrowweave but had the grommets from an original 71 carpet (same as 72) sewn in. I can take photos if you like. |
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tlambert
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| NOVA Airhead wrote: |
| tlambert wrote: |
Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
I used the Perlon. Looks very much like German Square Weave. |
Did you like it, fit good, good quality?
Do you have any pics of it installed?
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| tlambert wrote: |
Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
You might also ask in the Porsche forum -- the 914 used perlon and it is easier to get than squareweave.
I went with the newton narrowweave but had the grommets from an original 71 carpet (same as 72) sewn in. I can take photos if you like. |
Daniel, same questions that I asked Nova airhead.
I looked at the narrowweave and liked the way it looked but I wanted to get as close to OG as I could.
I don't understand about the gromments being sewn in, I thought they came with them in the carpet?
Anything you guys didn't like about it?
Pictures would be great!
Was the wait for it very long?
Shipping very costly?
Oh and is it available in the US or you ordered it from the UK?
Have either of you used TMI carpet, and if so how do the two compare?
Thanks guys. |
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rcooled
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| Are the floor carpets in the photo part of the kit? It looks impressive and I need some. |
I didn't use the floor pieces that came with the Newton kit, but went with coco mats instead.
To answer tlambert...yes, the kit comes with original-style grommets for the gearshift, handbrake and heater outlets already in place. The 21-piece Newton narrow weave kit cost about $380 (shipping from the UK included) at the current exchange rate back in '09. The carpet showed up about 3 weeks after placing the order, and all the pieces fit perfectly. No complaints.
Here's pic of the rear seat area...
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kiwighia68
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| kiwighia68 wrote: |
| Are the floor carpets in the photo part of the kit? It looks impressive and I need some. |
I didn't use the floor pieces that came with the Newton kit, but went with coco mats instead.
To answer tlambert...yes, the kit comes with original-style grommets for the gearshift, handbrake and heater outlets already in place. The 21-piece Newton narrow weave kit cost about $380 (shipping from the UK included) at the current exchange rate back in '09. The carpet showed up about 3 weeks after placing the order, and all the pieces fit perfectly. No complaints.
Here's pic of the rear seat area...
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Just when I thought I had made my decision with regard to colour schemes; yours is stunning in blue.
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NOVA Airhead
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| NOVA Airhead wrote: |
| tlambert wrote: |
Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
I used the Perlon. Looks very much like German Square Weave. |
Did you like it, fit good, good quality?
Do you have any pics of it installed?
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| tlambert wrote: |
Have any of you guys used the Newton carpet in a 72 or later Ghia?
Newton list Perlon as the carpet type they use for close match to the late model.
I am looking for something close to original but want decent quality and fit.
Or any other brands here in the US. |
You might also ask in the Porsche forum -- the 914 used perlon and it is easier to get than squareweave.
I went with the newton narrowweave but had the grommets from an original 71 carpet (same as 72) sewn in. I can take photos if you like. |
Daniel, same questions that I asked Nova airhead.
I looked at the narrowweave and liked the way it looked but I wanted to get as close to OG as I could.
I don't understand about the gromments being sewn in, I thought they came with them in the carpet?
Anything you guys didn't like about it?
Pictures would be great!
Was the wait for it very long?
Shipping very costly?
Oh and is it available in the US or you ordered it from the UK?
Have either of you used TMI carpet, and if so how do the two compare?
Thanks guys. |
Here are some photos of my install. I also went with a set of cocoa mats in "Natural" but I put them right over the Newton carpets. The cost for the Newton Carpet set isn't cheap but I wanted something nice. Also its a lot cheaper than German Square Weave. I used a TMI set on my last two cars. There is no comparison but you pay for it. As I recall it took about 6 weeks to receive the set as they are made to order.
I have had people that are recognized VW experts comment how much they liked my German Square Weave carpets. When I told them it wasn't German Square Weave they were impressed.
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rcooled
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| Just when I thought I had made my decision with regard to colour schemes; yours is stunning in blue. |
That carpet is actually charcoal grey, not blue. That photo was taken outside in deep shade and the camera picked up a lot of blue from the sky.
The photo in my earlier post here is much closer to the actual carpet color.
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danielsan
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photos from my driver. The carpet came with grey -- which looks fantastic in rcooled's 67, blue car w/ coco mats -- but didn't seem quite right with my lemke mats and 1970 interior.
Also, my car is an 'originalish' mild-custom driver. I was trying to get close to the look of 1970 convertible so I didn't want grey. Of course a ghia expert will look at it and say that Irish Green never came with a black interior, the grommets are 71 grommets and so on but non experts mistake it for an original interior and it gives it an authentic feel.
Looks like it comes with black if you get perlon and/or ask for it . . .
Fit was great -- much, much better than TMI, Surefit, and Sewfine (which are ones I had used in other cars). Also takes 3 times longer to install -- you really do need to take the time to form the carpet to the car.. 
I actually had some problems with fit at first -- for some reason I got some coupe parts in my bundle but Newton took care of it right away and even custom cut the carpet to match the originals I sent them. I got mine 5 months after I ordered. The mistake was taken care of almost immediately and at no expense to me; I've spent longer waiting for something to come from the east coast.
I think Newton is producing the best out there but if you want to go with a local place I can lend you my original perlon carpet bits so someone else can cut and bind perlon for you, most upholstery places can order perlon.
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tlambert
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Thanks for all the info guys!  |
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