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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1 goes for straight up comedy and beautiful craftsmanship.


thank you. I try to keep it light and fluffy Very Happy

so, as most of you know I don't give a flip about what people say/think about me or any of my work....or my failures.

so, the bus has been doing great. lots of driving, no issues...till I went to a show.

seems that painting ones coolant pipes super duper extra shiny was not the brightest idea Skillit had. seems that with heat cycles, pressure in the system and so on hoses tend to work loose. add to the fact that I didn't have any of my hose ends beaded and what you end up with is 2 gallons of water scattered all over the road in some shithole town in Connecticut....


lucky for me, my buddy noticed it right away. I had just been off the highway for about 5 mins or so and went to pull away from a light and BLARRFFFF....all over the road. lucky for me, I pulled over right next to a brook, and luckier yet, across the street from a shop who let me use a water bucket to fill the old girl up.

20 or so minutes later, back in business.

so, when I got home I ripped the system out again, beaded all the hose connections and finally put coolant in it. took it out for a good long ride and all seems to be well.

so, lesson learned: don't put 3 coats of clear on your coolant pipes, and don't run non beaded piping....ever!

every time I drive that thing its like

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I brought webwalker for a rip in it as well. I have not heard from him since. hope the boy is ok and has not been institutionalized Shocked

wvpieces got to drive it last week. all he said is "it's wrong...it's just wrong"
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So you're saying you're pretty happy with it? Razz

Two hands on the wheel there Skills Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
Xevin wrote:
1 goes for straight up comedy and beautiful craftsmanship.


thank you. I try to keep it light and fluffy Very Happy

I brought webwalker for a rip in it as well. I have not heard from him since. hope the boy is ok and has not been institutionalized Shocked

wvpieces got to drive it last week. all he said is "it's wrong...it's just wrong"

I didn't want to admit I almost piddled on your upholstery during that first pull. Shocked Lotta power. Looking forward to driving mine like a sedate priss.

(But what I saw of you design got be back off my dead duff and back out to the shop where I 'did the next thing.') Thanks for the ride, and the evening chat. Bumer about the show, but now I just have another excuse to come up again later!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got my under the glove box amp installed. also got the glove box with the false floor put in too
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a real good change to pound the bus about 200 miles this weekend to test and hone in my cooling system.

Saturday was hot as hell, temps in the low 90's pavement temps between 130/148* from place to place. lucky for me, I 95 is about 10-15 minutes away so I just kept pounding the north to south, south to north "test drive" loop.

pushing HARD when traffic would allow, I was able to maintain an average speed on Saturday of about 77mph. that was with the frequent blast up to 80-85 mph when traffic would allow.

let me go on record and say this was for testing only. I feel my bus is pretty dialed in, but at 80/85 it is a real handful.

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pretty much averaged a 192* coolant temp, and no hotter than 195*....EVER!

still want to do some tweeks here and there but overall, very happy
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, to follow up with Mr Kent's concerns, did you feel your transaxle to see how hot it got?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, to follow up with Mr Kent's concerns, did you feel your transaxle to see how hot it got?


Not sure this would apply to sgkent's comments because skills has a rebuilt tranny with a taller 3&4. Effectively making the transmission spin at 77mp the same a stock tranny would spin at 64 mph (not actual numbers, just example). Well, this what I think sgkent was saying.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, to follow up with Mr Kent's concerns, did you feel your transaxle to see how hot it got?


I laser gunned it once...cant remember what the temp was on the case, low 100's if I recall but not like "holy crap, that's at 250"

I am at 3,200 @75 mph which I think is less than a T4 (or T1 for that matter) at the same speeds. so as the bus priest point's out, I think I am less than the factory in that respect.

other than the cooing system disaster (the original in bay set up) and my "good enough" attitude which bit me on the coolant pipes by not bead rolling them and having them secured better the swap has had very little drama.

as I said before, I have no issues pointing out my failures/oversights the coolant pipe thing was a bunch of bullshit that I could have avoided had I spent another hour beading the ends.

all in all, I am very happy with it and just want to refine a few things. will it ever be "perfect" or accepted by others? who knows but boy, it's a shitload of fun!
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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most VW enthusiasts are stuck in 80's price land.

Jake Raby wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

Brian wrote:
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:

ratios:
1 3.80
2 2.06
3 1.14
4 .70
r&p 4.57

it suits my build pretty good. i am pretty happy with the gear spread, but again, i would like to do a 5 speed at some point.

tires are 215 50 17's in the rear and 205 can't remember 17's in the front



Are you still running the rebuilt 002 from Benco with the above ratios?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is correct
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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most VW enthusiasts are stuck in 80's price land.

Jake Raby wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

Brian wrote:
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

having some fun with air flow...

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not having any issues, just want to understand more of what's going on with airflow under a bus
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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most VW enthusiasts are stuck in 80's price land.

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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

Brian wrote:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
having some fun with air flow...

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not having any issues, just want to understand more of what's going on with airflow under a bus


Water or Alcohol? Total or Static?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

water, and not sure that I understand the question, but I will say total, as static is just "even" or not doing anything. that is the air pressure at about 70mph.

for fun, I want to see if I can increase the pressure around the top side of the radiator.

no reason really, just because I want to futz around with it
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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most VW enthusiasts are stuck in 80's price land.

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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

Brian wrote:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome work and results. You must have been kicking yourself over not beading the cooling pipes. My build has been on hiatus, but it will start vamping up soon. Your results always encourage me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You must have been kicking yourself over not beading the cooling pipes..


that was the biggest asshole mistake I made. thanks for the compliment. those who know me know that I can't leave good enough alone. I like to truly understand how it works, so I just don't say "dunno, bro, it just works"
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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most VW enthusiasts are stuck in 80's price land.

Jake Raby wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public.

Brian wrote:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
You must have been kicking yourself over not beading the cooling pipes..


that was the biggest asshole mistake I made. thanks for the compliment. those who know me know that I can't leave good enough alone. I like to truly understand how it works, so I just don't say "dunno, bro, it just works"


Does a "standard" bead roller work for pipes, or is it a specific tool? I have used a bead roller for some sheet aluminum years ago, but I'm not sure the dies would fit in the diameter of a coolant pipe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
You must have been kicking yourself over not beading the cooling pipes..


that was the biggest asshole mistake I made. thanks for the compliment. those who know me know that I can't leave good enough alone. I like to truly understand how it works, so I just don't say "dunno, bro, it just works"


Does a "standard" bead roller work for pipes, or is it a specific tool? I have used a bead roller for some sheet aluminum years ago, but I'm not sure the dies would fit in the diameter of a coolant pipe.

If you could get the pipe over the roller then yes, but if the pipe is 6' long with many bends it'll be interesting to wrangle as it goes round and round.
I've got a Parker hand beader, works great and usually can be done with the pipe in place, but it only goes up to 1":

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Something like this with the tapered bolt inside that pushes out the ball bearing may be available in larger sizes (or you could make one), no clearance issues there:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as usual, what busdaddy said Laughing

what I ended up doing is just welded a bead on.. so I ran a bead about 1/8 all around the pipes. this is one tool I wasn't just going to run out and buy...even though I went looking for one Shocked
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese.......
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Brian wrote:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:

Something like this with the tapered bolt inside that pushes out the ball bearing may be available in larger sizes (or you could make one), no clearance issues there:

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Wow. WHERE DO I BUY ONE?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matco tools, Aircraft spruce and specialty, Chief aircraft, US tool, try them all...
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