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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming along nice Will..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just some fit and finish pictures. The rear tack strip is NOS with the factory part sticker. Fit is better than perfect. It's nice to see something different than sheet metal being worked on for a change.

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It's a good thing that tack strip was in the spot where it goes for all those years. I'm sure if it had been on a shelf it would have been a twisted mess. That's the fender that was sitting on the ground buried by 20 years worth of leaves.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome project and great work!!! keep us updated Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome job thanks for posting the detailed photos.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, thanks to all of you for the kind words and support. It's this kind of community that really makes this hobby great.

To answer some of the questions: I hate to say it, but I don't know exactly which breed of wood was originally used. Talking to Chuck (Chuck's Convertible Parts) a while ago, I think he told me but I don't remember. I'm a drug dealer by trade (chemotherapy pharmacist), so wood working is not exactly my forte.

Regarding all the bare metal in the car in hidden areas: Anything that is not accessible has been stripped and coated. The hood in the pictures is worst by far. It was never acid dipped. The rest of the car was dipped, and the bare metal was still clean. The insides that were not opened up (like the windshield frame) had a flexible hose inserted with a rust prevention coating sprayed.

A few more pics, just for fun, starting with that right-front fender. Can't wait to see some paint on this car. Shouldn't be too long now... Smile

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Bare metal. The ugly-ass factory welds were left in place
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I love this part. The ugly, wrinkled metal below the rear window is factory. Again, the qualities of a "coachbuilt" car
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Satisfying
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is great photo documentation of the actual finish these cars left Karmann inn, thanks for posting! Those two indentations at the edge of the shelf, right above those two brackets, do they seem fabricated with some pressing tool, or do they seem just whacked down with a mallet?

It is fascinating to see how these cars were made by hand and adjusted by builders, I took out the windows of my vert once, and the amount of adjustment needed to get them in was astounding! It the factory the same procedure took a few minutes I guess.

Keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that that panel was present when the shells were manufactured in Wolfsburg.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, I'll bet there's a lot of hidden rust on all our Beetle's. Yours is coming out
Super. That Tack Strip is to die for, what kind of wood do you recon it is, if you don't mind.


I never really studied that tack strip, but if I recall correctly, it was not of the open grain variety (oak,ash,mahogany,etc) like some of the smaller wooden parts used on these cars. It almost has a birch appearance. But it's been about 5 years now, hasn't it Will? Wow time flies.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice description Dave, Birch totally makes since. I was thinking maybe ash.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lovethatconvertible wrote:
Yep, I'll bet there's a lot of hidden rust on all our Beetle's. Yours is coming out
Super. That Tack Strip is to die for, what kind of wood do you recon it is, if you don't mind.


I never really studied that tack strip, but if I recall correctly, it was not of the open grain variety (oak,ash,mahogany,etc) like some of the smaller wooden parts used on these cars. It almost has a birch appearance. But it's been about 5 years now, hasn't it Will? Wow time flies.

I would suggest Beech (fagus) Either European (likeliest) or American.
This closed grain dense hardwood has been a staple of the furniture/upholstery trade for eons. Idea Looks similar to white oak (rice grain) and bends well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if the tack strip had that speckled grain that beech has. But it did have years of dust on it when it was delivered to Will. It also has a kind of hand hewn appearance. It doesn't have all of the band saw marks that the small parts have. I do have an early oval top frame in my basement. I'll take a look at the other bows. Maybe that will give a better idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can't wait to see some paint on this car. Shouldn't be too long now... Smile

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Any paint on it yet? How did you dix that hole in the back left corner - I have a matching one to plug Smile

Did you manage to match the L71 and L72 paint codes? L71 match is suggested here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=478732

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got these pics from Bryan yesterday. I can't put into words how excited I am to see the car come together. Huge huge HUGE credit to Bryan Nunes for the solid effort put into this 51.

The bodywork is complete, and the car is in final primer. It is a color similar to the dark brown that will ultimately be sprayed. Stay tuned! Lots should happen fast now.

Warning! the following pics may be not safe for work! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more pic. I love the before/after shots from similar angles.

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And to answer the above question about the hole in the package tray: That black spot is not a hole, it is paint that was sprayed into the cavities to prevent rust. A little overspray dripped down.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One more pic. I love the before/after shots from similar angles.

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And to answer the above question about the hole in the package tray: That black spot is not a hole, it is paint that was sprayed into the cavities to prevent rust. A little overspray dripped down.

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That was my impression.
Looking spectacular Will, I can see why the "not safe for work" disclaimer. Idea
Most of us would be 'distracted' after viewing your Progress Update. Wink
You must be jazzed! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for thge update - it is looking A-MA-ZING!

Have you got the paint codes for L71 and L72? I have seen the L71 on other threads but not found a source yet for a modern L72 mix.

I cannot wait to see it painted Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for sharing, it looks amazing. Cannot wait to see it painted Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The L72 color code is not available from Glasurit. Luckly, L71 is so I guess we are halfway there.

I have a very good sample from the back of the glovebox doors to match. We should be able to get a L72 formula from these:
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I saw another car posted in another thread that doesn't look quite right. It looks a little too purple
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Scan from 1951 Berlin auto show.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good news Will. Once you have scanned the L72 will your paint shop be able to give me a code to get some mixed here in the UK please?

I have other examples of L71/L72 but not sure which is correct - your glove box doors look like the perfect opportunity to get this right Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incredible Will! Looking fantastic!
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