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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ordeal is over...just installed the shifter and drove down the road! I enjoyed the experience, but once is enough. I'll never buy a bus again with a totally rotten floor, lower A-pillars, and forward dog legs...that's a deal breaker for this old man.


Congrats Ken. Whatever your next undertaking is with it, it'll seem like a day in the park compared to all that.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. I'm very ready to move on to the "Turd's" other areas of need.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last photo. Girlfriend can't understand why I put a 48 year old funky mat down on that beautiful white floor!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Look awesome. Nice job.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reinstalled the heater tube today...almost all day...geeeessshhhhh...I HATE that contraption! It was the worst part of the removal process, and even worse getting it back in. Tomorrow I'll re tack weld it back together (took all day today just refitting it all together), and use seam sealer at all the joints to give me the best flow of heat (and carbon monoxide).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Voila! Lotta work left but it's in and lined up pretty nicely...not a terrible amount of fitting needed.

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Hey Ken

I am having problems getting my pan into the cab. Seems the headlight panel is in the way, but yours are in when you fit yours. Help!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first of your photos is the correct position to begin. Keep the front of the floor up against the bottom of the headlight buckets. You then push the back of the floor down in back. Then you finish pushing the front of the floor down the rest of the way. The floor will taco a bit but not too much. The floor needs to be trimmed at the A pillars in width to fit your bus. The flange that holds the kick panel should have a small gap to the A pillar. Sand the cut smooth before you install.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The first of your photos is the correct position to begin. Keep the front of the floor up against the bottom of the headlight buckets. You then push the back of the floor down in back. Then you finish pushing the front of the floor down the rest of the way. The floor will taco a bit but not too much. The floor needs to be trimmed at the A pillars in width to fit your bus. The flange that holds the kick panel should have a small gap to the A pillar. Sand the cut smooth before you install.
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Cool thanks for the input. How easy is it to get back out? I just wanted to test fit for now. Or should I prep and set.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, get the front in first. It's a total PITA, the rear, at least on mine, was VERY tough to then press down. It was tempting to just take it back out once, but I stuck with it and fitted / refitted it many times. Getting it out each time was a bitch! It required a pry bar where the rear if the floor meets the seat pedestal and lots of cursing and trying to remember the angle the floor "liked". Patience paid off.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, get the front in first. It's a total PITA, the rear, at least on mine, was VERY tough to then press down. It was tempting to just take it back out once, but I stuck with it and fitted / refitted it many times. Getting it out each time was a bitch! It required a pry bar where the rear if the floor meets the seat pedestal and lots of cursing and trying to remember the angle the floor "liked". Patience paid off.


Thanks for the help. I will try and keep the cursing to a minimum. Sounds like I will need to crank up the volume on the radio!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, get the front in first. It's a total PITA, the rear, at least on mine, was VERY tough to then press down. It was tempting to just take it back out once, but I stuck with it and fitted / refitted it many times. Getting it out each time was a bitch! It required a pry bar where the rear if the floor meets the seat pedestal and lots of cursing and trying to remember the angle the floor "liked". Patience paid off.


Thanks for the help. I will try and keep the cursing to a minimum. Sounds like I will need to crank up the volume on the radio!


I'm glad it was the first job i chose to do on "The Turd", because I can't imagine any job on this thing being more trying and frustrating. I'm glad because now I'm willing to tackle any job on her, and they all pale in comparison.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, get the front in first. It's a total PITA, the rear, at least on mine, was VERY tough to then press down. It was tempting to just take it back out once, but I stuck with it and fitted / refitted it many times. Getting it out each time was a bitch! It required a pry bar where the rear if the floor meets the seat pedestal and lots of cursing and trying to remember the angle the floor "liked". Patience paid off.


Thanks for the help. I will try and keep the cursing to a minimum. Sounds like I will need to crank up the volume on the radio!


I'm glad it was the first job i chose to do on "The Turd", because I can't imagine any job on this thing being more trying and frustrating. I'm glad because now I'm willing to tackle any job on her, and they all pale in comparison.


I am glad too. The post and pictures really helps me out. I just can't wait to drive this beast!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A follow up...I'm finishing up the reinstall in the front cabin, and am installing the kick panels today. I've had to slice 4mm off of the bottom of the passenger side just now in order to get it to fit. The "U" shaped "shelf that the bottom of the panel fits into was too high. Seems I didn't hammer that edge down far enough or it was just formed a little different that the original...no big deal. Cant wait to see if the driver's side is the same. I'll report.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for posting all this. I start demo this weekend on my 63 Kombi floor and I will have this forum post up on my IPAD for quick reference.


Question: Would it be easier, if the metal around the heater tube is all good, to leave some of it and cut out that part of the new floor and fit it that way to avoid the pita that the Heater tube can become when fitting in the new floor?

ok.. that was a long question. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taederbug wrote:
Thanks so much for posting all this. I start demo this weekend on my 63 Kombi floor and I will have this forum post up on my IPAD for quick reference.


Question: Would it be easier, if the metal around the heater tube is all good, to leave some of it and cut out that part of the new floor and fit it that way to avoid the pita that the Heater tube can become when fitting in the new floor?

ok.. that was a long question. Smile

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ABSOLUTELY ! If I ever do a floor again, that's my route. I asked that same question before doing my floor about the steering column hole, and was talked out of it by mostly those who said the column was easy enough to remove (true), and a few others who said it was lazy or just wrong to cut into a nice new floor. At that point I thought the steering column was the problem. It wasn't. The heater tube is a major PITA. I fact, I just finished that job by trying to remove enough rust on the sections underneath the floor to tack the pieces all back together and then sealing up the seams with POR Patch™ (Great stuff BTW). I would highly recommend making two cuts forward of that hole in the floor, and removing that piece so the floor will slip right past the heater tube, therefore leaving your heater tube intact IF it's in good shape. Others may now flame away! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh...I see...you want to leave some of the old floor that currently surrounds the heater tube. If it is in good shape, that's an even better idea (IMNSHO).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up! Thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll let you know how it goes. Do some demo first and get all the rusted metal out but the section around the heater tube. Then post some picks and see what people think.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to remove my heater tube, I will cut floor instead!
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So, got the front floor out. I have since removed the pedals, cut out the E-brake Handle, and removed the shifter. I have put in the new DCMC and I am working on getting in the new metal lines. So here is the question...

What should I have done before I weld in the new floor?

I have new lower doglegs on the way from Monkey Nut. Should i put them in First before the floor. Should I Por 15 all before? The backside of the nose has some rust I have cut out. Will it be easier to replace that before I put in the Floor? The "A" pillars look ok with some small patch welding to do. I am assuming it would be easier to do that before the floor. All info is welcome and please forgive the slight "Hi-jack" of your post. Smile

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