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eurodub Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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the color in the BC often is missing or not specified. _________________ 1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
1974 T2 Westfalia Campmobile
1976 MK1 Golf |
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Paint it whatever color you want! |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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*Darren wrote: |
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Yessir it is! I sent off to VW for the birth certificate yesterday. If it were any other original color than beige I'd be happy though, I hate that color. |
Dude,
You need an attitude adjustment/reorientation.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=504264&highlight=beige
check out the second photo in the thread of the ragtop. I think the late splits/early ovals with the reversed two toned (dark inner) rims look sweet.
Go ahead tell me this isn't one beautiful beige split. But to each his/her own - maybe you'll get lucky and the BC will come back with some other colot.
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Was this the car?
I don't disagree it's nice looking, actually the wheels are my favorite part. It's just that color, like if I were out in it I might be carjacked by a roving gang of grandmothers. To me it's just blah looking. I've never changed a color on any car to date, always went with the factory color. I had a 64 Beetle years ago. 50k original miles, original paint, interior, etc. I got it because it was so original. Was Panama Beige. I never could get into that car, the color was just so bland to me. Sold it. It's early in the cleanup, I'll probably go with the orignal yuck, sleep-inducing color who knows. |
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56reddy Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2005 Posts: 774
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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L90 Sand is not so beige. It has a lot more grey in it. _________________ New Vintage Specialist.
1974 ghia convertible
1981 Vanagon Westfalia
Making VW’s Fun Again.(MVFA) |
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*Darren Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2013 Posts: 917 Location: MD
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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yes the ragtop photo you grabbed is the one I was referring to - do up a nice red interior or brown cloth and you'd be fine, of course paint whatever you want, or flip it in order to buy that favorite color split. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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56reddy wrote: |
L90 Sand is not so beige. It has a lot more grey in it. |
That's not so bad, definately more grey then beige!
I found this one in the gallery and it looks more green, lighting? The top is green but it's listed as L90
Then I found this 1959 color- Mignonette Green! Beauty!
Oh and if I were to just sell this thing I'd never get nearly enough for another Split in a better color/condition. So I'm working with what I have. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Since I have nowhere else to put this stuff maybe Mr. Everett can make this a general topic for my car?
Went out tonight and decided to deal with my mangled dashboard.
Friggin gold! During this car's race car days apparently it had a badass switch or gauge panel there. I took the sander and discovered between a 1/8th and 1/4 inch of bondo across the whole dash face.
Closeup of the butchery! Also the radio must have added too much weight so it was eliminated.
What to fill that hole with? Went rooting in the trash and among other junk I found this!
The hole wasn't big enough! So I said why not and made it a bit larger!
Viola!
Notice the dramatic lighting effect!
Right at home! Also the Zwitter only ashtray was also too heavy I guess and was discarded.
Also notable is that this is a SUPER rare heater-delete model!
Or the heating system was too heavy maybe. I won't be driving it in the cold anyways but will try and find correct tubes and whatnot.
Apparently the windlace retainers and only passenger side grab handle anchors were too heave so they were removed too!
And this here is the last remaining example of the car's original color! Sand! Blah.
I'll preserve that spot.
That's all for now, unlikely anyone will even read it but I can look at at work and ask myself where I've gone wrong. |
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bandi Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 1064 Location: Campbellford, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Your garbage can looks like mine! (Well, at least the hopes and dreams.) _________________ '60 Canadian Standard, '64 Bug, another '64 Bug, '66 Bug, '69 Sunroof Bug, '69 GT3 Bug, '71 Super, '72 Super, '73 Canadian Custom, '74 Love Bug, '83 Mexi Bug, '85 Cabrio, '94 Mexi Bug, '99 New Beetle, '02 New Beetle Turbo S, '03 New Beetle VR6. And some Fieros. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for noticing my attempt at humor! You are afflicted with a Zwitter also! Can you post pictures of it? |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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More excavating with the Makita and cup brush today!
There's a dent in the rear panel near the bumper. Knock it out? No! Slather over 1/4 inch of filler into it!
Right side,the left looked just like this when I started digging. I didn't think much of it but noticed a vertical crack, so went to investigate.
Right quarter. Notice the couple of small dents? Remove them? Again no! Trowel over 1/8 inch of filler over the whole panel more than halfway up. However I can't remember ever having a Beetle where both quarters were so amazingly intact, to people out west this is probably a tragic rust out.
Left side after some chiseling. All of this to avoid hammering out a dent or two!
Lastly,the sun setting on my bastardization! The entire car was once this color. The camera doesn't do it justice. |
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool car and nice find! I think you need to strip it down more and see what all you have,not too much rust for being from the east coast. Did you get the birth cert? How far idealy do you want to take this car? I think it has huge potential to be a very nice car with some effort,the fact that there is no crazy wicked rust is a huge plus! Keep the updates coming,I know I will be watching! |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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mr white wrote: |
Very cool car and nice find! I think you need to strip it down more and see what all you have,not too much rust for being from the east coast. Did you get the birth cert? How far idealy do you want to take this car? I think it has huge potential to be a very nice car with some effort,the fact that there is no crazy wicked rust is a huge plus! Keep the updates coming,I know I will be watching! |
Hey Sir! I've been stripping it down little by little. The birth certificate is ordered also. Um, I hadn't really thought about how far to take it.. I wanted to make it a decent driver, a nice period correct color, that's about it. Nothing fancy! OR Since it's already gold I could make it a Million Beetle! Observe:
All I need is some spray glue, a bunch of crushed glass and some brocade for a headliner! Ok...back to work |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Over the weekend I decided to rip out all the bondo stuffing I could find. I had chiseled away at the left rear, so I went back to that.
Forward part.This Bondo was only about 1/8inch thick at the front then got to around 1/4 inch towards the back.
Rearward part. This was 1/4 to about roughly 7/16 inch thick. That rebar thing was covered completely. From what I've seen the right side isn't quite as bad but not much better. All this to cover dents and badly done welds.
Engine room and the supposedly "three speed racing transmission".
The panel with the engine seal is separated along the top seam where a number of the spot welds have broken and the ends where the shelves were is chopped up. What years are appropriate to replace this with? At this point given the junk apron and hacking would it be just wise to try and find a good donor rear clip and chop off all this butchery? Or try and straighten what's there? You can see the edge of the cheap replacement rear apron in the pic too. It's for a 66-ish year and all beat up anyways. I could have just left all this mess alone, I mean it's solid as hell just butchered, and that bugs me. Any input aside from crushing it would be appreciated. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Not that anyone's reading this but I received the birth certificate for this car yesterday and it lists the country of destination as USA. Specifically it says "VW Distribution Co., New York, USA. Does that make this a Hoffman car? |
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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The birth cert info indicates that it most likely is a Hoffman car! Very cool. I look forward to seeing more of this car. Get this old bird going! You can do it! |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I have been cleaning up and fixing a split case transmission for this car. I cleaned the ages of old grease and crud off, am putting all new mounts on, axle boots, etc. I took the nose cone off as the bushings were shot. It's rebushed now and I went to put it back on when I noticed something..
The larger nut I'm pointing the scraper at there, moves. It's got a lock plate which is turned up on one side. That moves a bit, but it only moves about 1/8th of a turn then stops. Is that normal? I've never had any experience tinkering with these types of transmissions before and wanted to ask before I put it back together. I'd assume it should be all tight but what do I know! |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Been out working on the car the last couple days! Removed what I was told was a 'race tranny' which I think is just a broken 67 one (has reverse light switch). Put the split case together. Blasted, cleaned and painted all brake parts. Noticed some horribles, like an actual rust hole in the left quarter. Spring plate cover bolts were all loose. Front trans mount looks a bit hacked. Chassis is all race car red.
Getting lighter!
Rust hole! All these bolts were loose and this side spring plate had slipped past the lower stop.
Red means more power!! So I'm putting a 36hp in.
Slightly modified! Is this still useable?
That's where I am now. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1070 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:50 am Post subject: |
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More work !
There was a cheap repro 65 - 66 rear apron here when I got it. It still had the Rocky Mountain Motorworks sticker on the back! Both rear side panels were all mangled and hacked so I am electing to just cut all the crap out and replace it with old original metal.
Quality repairs on the left side.
Quality repairs on the right side.
These are the panels I'll be using. I purchased them from Peter on here (Germanaire), thanks again! They're pretty solid, apart from some pinholes here and there. These are from a 53, the shape appears the same, although mine are so screwed up I can't tell exactly. I'm assuming I can just transfer the old bumper mounts over to them once I remove the later ones. My old panels are rock solid but so tweaked, crushed and bodged together this seems the best route to take. Wish me luck! |
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IIIA-0426 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2009 Posts: 229 Location: Feuerbacherweg 48-50
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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A simple question, but why don't you separate the body from the chassis and give them both a complete media blast to see what your left with? This would be a basis from which you can properly work from, understand what metal work is needed etc. I think it would be more effective than manually chipping away at bondo here and there?
I have never restored a car, but this is what I would do on this project. |
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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That's the plan, actually. I'm fixing what I can until I can get it media blasted. I knew the back was a mess like this so I'm fixing as best I can. I'm trying to get an extra car sold to free up money to get it stripped. |
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