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Walking Contradiction
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Tim, thanks for the tips. I'll pick up those plastic inserts when I replace the fuel line.
Joel, thank you for telling me that. I would have ripped that bolt out otherwise. It doesn't look factory at all. Should I get some foam to fill that gap in the doghouse or is it pretty non-essential?
-Sam
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Thank you very much for the link and diagram. I've added the fuel line and rubber grommets to my shopping list.
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Instead of doing a rubber grommet do what Glenn did. http://www.glenn-ring.com/resto/resto13.html
3rd set of pictures. It is just a piece of a threaded tube(You see them on house lighting) with two washers and two nuts. I also used a little bit of loctite to keep them from coming loose. Much easier to do with the engine out. I picked up an entire kit for a few bucks at True Value.
Car looks good, It looks like you are learning about yours the same way I did. Dive in head first. |
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Walking Contradiction
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Instead of doing a rubber grommet do what Glenn did. http://www.glenn-ring.com/resto/resto13.html
3rd set of pictures. It is just a piece of a threaded tube(You see them on house lighting) with two washers and two nuts. I also used a little bit of loctite to keep them from coming loose. Much easier to do with the engine out. I picked up an entire kit for a few bucks at True Value.
Car looks good, It looks like you are learning about yours the same way I did. Dive in head first. |
Thanks, I'll look into that. It's amazing how much I've learned in the 7 months I've owned this car. I never would have imagined myself pulling the engine when I first got it.
-Sam
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Hyperspace
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That gap on the doghouse discharge tinware is normal, there was just foam in there originally which disintegrates after 40 years.
That bolt in the preheat surround that goes into the cylinder tin is also normal.
there is a threaded insert that clips into the tin for the bolt.
These often work loose through vibration
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There is a small piece of mising tin, that would enclose the otherr side of the pipe
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Walking Contradiction
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| There is a small piece of mising tin, that would enclose the otherr side of the pipe |
Yep I need to find a pair of those.
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Joel
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| Joel wrote: |
That gap on the doghouse discharge tinware is normal, there was just foam in there originally which disintegrates after 40 years.
That bolt in the preheat surround that goes into the cylinder tin is also normal.
there is a threaded insert that clips into the tin for the bolt.
These often work loose through vibration
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There is a small piece of mising tin, that would enclose the otherr side of the pipe |
I know, I deliberately found that pic with that piece off to show the threaded insert clipped into the cylinder tin that holds them on.
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Walking Contradiction
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Today I discovered that I am missing the flaps in the fan shroud, in addition to the already missing thermostat system. Luckily Tim suggested a site called awesomepowdercoat.com to get all the parts I need. In a surprising stroke of luck I learned that their shop is only an hours drive away from me in Vanlue, OH. So now I have a good semi-local place to get tinware and powder coating done.  In the future I'll be really needing them to do my tins, intake manifold, and exhaust system and maybe even a set of wheels.
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Walking Contradiction
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We're finally getting some decent weather so today I began tearing down the engine. Tomorrow were expecting 6-10'' of snow though! 
The articles at vw-resource.com made this a snap.
Carburetor removed
Pulley half and belt removed
Fan shroud and alternator off
Firewall tin off
Manifold removed
Upper engine tins removed
And that's where I left off for today. All the hardware got individually bagged and labeled so that hopefully I can put this thing back together again.
A couple of things I noticed:
Oil cooler is missing Hoover Bit
This spark plug wire is frayed. I've got to buy a new set.
THICK carbon deposits. Solid as a rock too. The preheat tubes looked the same way. The carb is probably jetted way rich to compensate for the 009 flat spot.  I'm going to fix that once I get my 34-PICT rebuilt.
Is this tube from the oil filler supposed to just end open above the tin? That doesn't seem right to me.
I also got another order of parts in today. I got braided fuel hose, the metal engine compartment fuel line, a gland nut, the seals and clamps for the fresh air hoses, an oil sump plate, the strainer, and all new hardware for it, a flywheel o-ring, heater cables, and the cables that operate the floor vents.
-Sam
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Thats an aftermarket filler designed for earlier engines.
73 and later dont have road draft tube like that anymore.
Get an original if you can, those aftermarket ones always leak.
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Walking Contradiction
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Ah, thanks. I'll see if I can find one in the classifieds.
-Sam
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If you are going with a 34-3 carb, you are going to want an SVDA distributor. These are becoming hard to find but they are still available some places. This is the cheapest I know of: http://www.busdepot.com/043905205
Genuine Bosch. If you are sending the carb to Volksbitz you can specify to Tim that you are using an SVDA distributor. 34-3 had a few different versions and some are designed for use with a DVDA which has 2 vacuum ports. There are some drillings that are slightly different.
Carbon build up on the intake is common, yours looks better than mine, you can clean it out with a cable chucked into a hand drill to ream it out. There are other threads you can search with various methods of cleaning the heat risers using chemicals and other concoctions to loosen the carbon. I also need to do this soon.
Airhead parts sells NEW hoover bits if you can't find a good used one. I just got one and it looks pretty decent, but I can't speak to the fit yet.
The downdraft tubes you need are plentiful, I see them at swaps all the time and they are also in the classifieds. There is a rubber boot for the bottom that lets it breathe and a grommet that goes on before you install the rear tin plate to keep it from rattling. Both inexpensive, there are actually a bunch of NOS boots still available if you look: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=797544
You are doing a great job so far!
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Walking Contradiction
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Oh yes I was planning on putting in an SVDA at the same time as my newly rebuilt carb. Thanks for the link, the other place I found those for sale at wanted $200. I will also be sure to mention that to Tim when I send mine in.
Thanks for the encouragement!
-Sam
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I have ordered a thermostat flaps kit, a newly manufactured German thermostat, and an OE oil filler from Awesome Powdercoat. There are 3 straight days of >40* weather next week so hopefully I will be able to degrease the engine and tins and start painting.
-Sam
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Sam, awesomepowdercoat also sells the Hoover Bit you're looking for.
Make sure you put that thermosta rod in the hole that is nearer to the center of the engine. The outward hole will make it so you can't adjust the thermostat properly.
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Crap, I forgot about the Hoover bit. I'll have to get that too. Also Tim I just realized I may have the wrong sled tin on the thermostat side of the motor. The one I have is one solid piece with no hole to access where the thermostat would be. My memory of this is foggy but isn't it supposed to be two pieces?
-Sam
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Sam, on my 1974 Super, the sled tin is a two-piece affair. To get to my thermostat, I remove a few bolts and one nut, and the area is fully exposed.
You need this type of arrangement; otherwise, I'd think you'd have to remove the engine when you want to adjust the thermostat to specs.
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I got the muffler off today without incident, except one of the studs pulled out with the nut. I'll just put it back in with some blue locktite. However I'm terrified of taking off the heater boxes. I've been soaking them for days in liquid wrench but two of the nuts still don't want to budge with moderate pressure. I don't want to force them any further for fear of snapping them. I may just leave them alone and hope for the best.
Also, I found a cracked fin on the right cylinder head. It's the non-OEM one. Imagine that.
-Sam
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More Progress. The stubborn nut on the right heater box finally gave up its death grip and I managed to remove the heater box. Both studs pulled out though. I think I'm going to go ahead and get all new nuts and studs for these.
Next I moved on to the other heater box. This one was a bit of a puzzle. My 13mm wrench was too big for the nut. I tried other metric wrenches and they didn't fit either. Turns out it was a 1/2'' nut. Even with the proper wrench it still didn't budge. Liquid Wrench wasn't helping. I needed heat, but I don't own a torch. I dug through the house and found a lighter. Sure enough, the small amount of heat from it was enough to loosen the nut. Mission accomplished. Both heater boxes and sled tins are now off the motor, without any broken studs.
Now a question. I need to degrease the crankcase because it is FILTHY. How do I rinse the degreaser off without getting water into the intake/exhaust ports or in the flywheel area?
-Sam
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Champagne/wine corks?
Rags stuffed into the holes?
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