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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:21 am    Post subject: 74 vin but swing axle? Reply with quote

My beetle pan has a 1973/74 VIN #, but has a swing axle with z bar. There are no signs of the chassis or torsion tube having been modified, cut, sectioned, etc. Any idea of what the story is on this? Also, it has a ball joint front beam. I bought this beetle, used, in the early 80's.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably a Canada spec car.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. The US-market Beetles switched to IRS (CV joint) rear axles in 1969, but outside the US swing-axle transmissions were common all the way to the last Beetle in 2003.

My '75 has a (US '68-style) swing-axle.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting. I wonder if someone from Canada who has a similar beetle configuration can confirm the extended use of swing axle beetles here. I couldn't figure out how, or why, someone would have swapped to a swing axle. The surface of the frame is quite pristine at the rear, and I would be able to see if any splicing and welding was done to retrofit swing axle rear frame horns, or cut off old irs trailing arm mounts.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 78 standard bug with kingpin front, swingaxle rears...but it is non-US.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northof49 wrote:
Very interesting. I wonder if someone from Canada who has a similar beetle configuration can confirm the extended use of swing axle beetles here. I couldn't figure out how, or why, someone would have swapped to a swing axle. The surface of the frame is quite pristine at the rear, and I would be able to see if any splicing and welding was done to retrofit swing axle rear frame horns, or cut off old irs trailing arm mounts.


I don't have a similar car, but after more than 25 years of slinging parts, I can verify that Canadian models did have swing axles all through the model run. Not all of 'em, but it's not uncommon.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. This is a great forum. So much experience here.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sure it isn't a Euro spec car?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vin is:

113287xxxx
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of post 68 Swing Axles up here in Canada, I just yanked one out of a 73 at the wrecker. The 73 was bought as a staff car for putting around the mill here in town, they had a fleet of them that were some kind of ultra cheap base model all with swing axle and no trim.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kinda glad for the kingpin setup... more stuff you can repair yourself.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northof49 wrote:
Very interesting. I wonder if someone from Canada who has a similar beetle configuration can confirm the extended use of swing axle beetles here. I couldn't figure out how, or why, someone would have swapped to a swing axle. The surface of the frame is quite pristine at the rear, and I would be able to see if any splicing and welding was done to retrofit swing axle rear frame horns, or cut off old irs trailing arm mounts.


I've owned a couple of 73 parts cars with swing axles and worked on a few others. They were considered "Standard" models which never got imported in the USA

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was only North America that got standards in IRS probably because of the stink Nader kicked up.

Europe, Mexico, Brazil, Asia, South Africa etc all got stuck with swing axle (excluding autos obviously)
They stayed swing axle here in Oz too except for the last year of production in 76 only cos they had a surplus of Super Beetle trans and engines.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This really makes ordering parts for the rear brakes and drive confusing. What year should I use for rear brake parts? 1968? I need e brake cables.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

19super73 wrote:
You sure it isn't a Euro spec car?


Considering the OP is from Canada, I think it's safe to say that chances are, it's a Canadian car.

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