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peteandvanessa Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: Pistol Pete's 1974 Resto |
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So having helped my Son get his 1958 Bug on the road to complete the Treffen 15 this year. He goes out last week and surprises me with this. A 1974 Standard Beetle.
My son Dan is only 18, works full time and full time college , but he researched the cars for sale, saved up a few bucks and went to see this 74 standard. The money exchanged hands, and he and his friend loaded this baby up and brings it home to Dad (tears in my eye when it arrived)
After the initial shock, I decided, I'd start my own thread on the beloved car he bought home for me.
Here's what it looked like when it arrived last Sunday:
Here's my 74 parked next to my son's 58:
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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First task was to strip the interior.
The pans are shot, so they need replacing. Not sure wherther I'll replace the pans myself or whether I need to get a local shop to do the work.
The heater channels look solid, as does the rear cargo area.
Both doors are solid and rust free:
Dash could do with some work - LOL
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Long weekend coming, so further dis-assembly is planned. Goal to get the pan separated from the body.
What am I getting into here |
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dubjeep Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2011 Posts: 354 Location: Rhode Island
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vernonc Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2012 Posts: 681 Location: Parkersburg, WV..yes, I sold the boat
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say that you've got a 'good kid' and a nice project. Hope you take time to enjoy both.
mort _________________ "Those who don't read newspapers are un-informed. Those who do read newspapers are mis-informed." Will Rogers
'69 sedan, low mileage, all original.....currently being 'freshened-up' for road trips and daily driving...just not every day
Freshening-up link http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=617386 |
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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A little more work was done during the week and today.
I removed all the fenders, running boards and fuel tank.
Closer inspection showed that the heater channels are in really good shape on both side and there's very little rust anywhere (well apart from the rotten floor pans). All the bumper mounting points are rust free too. I thank my son for bringing home such a good rust free car.
Tomorrow's plan is to pressure wash the whole car down to remove some of the dirt, then prepare the car so that the body can be removed from the pan.
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Worked on the car for the last couple of days. All the interior is now stripped. All wiring has been pulled and the body completely separated from the floor pan.
Pressure washed the transmission and rear suspension, as well as cleaning up the front.
Ordered new floor pans to replace the rusty ones. Hope to test fit and then weld the new ones in when my Father in law comes over in October. Then I'll feel if I'm starting to get somewhere.
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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that's great! _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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olmer2 Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2009 Posts: 781 Location: chattanooga TN
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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olmer2 wrote: |
Awesome work, you're really blowing through the break down stage!!
Side note, turn your boards that are supporting the body on their edge. Finding the body on the floor would not be the start of a good day |
Thanks for the tip. Yeah I noticed that, so I actually went out and bought two 4 x 4, so no sagging now.
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Tomorrow's plan is to remove the front beam, clean it up, then primer it and then spray it gloss black (have to do something until the floor pans arrive).
Also go a few tips from a VW guy at Bugorama today, he suggested drilling out the old factory welds on the old floor pans, which make it easier to remove and install the new pans. I'll try that next weekend. |
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owdlvr Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2008 Posts: 684 Location: Squampton BC
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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peteandvanessa wrote: |
Tomorrow's plan is to remove the front beam, clean it up, then primer it and then spray it gloss black (have to do something until the floor pans arrive).
Also go a few tips from a VW guy at Bugorama today, he suggested drilling out the old factory welds on the old floor pans, which make it easier to remove and install the new pans. I'll try that next weekend. |
Use a proper spot weld cutter. They'll allow you to drill out the weld from the floor-pan side, without damaging / drilling through the chassis spine.
http://www.blairequipment.com/Spotweld_Cutters/Spotweld_Cutters.html
-Dave _________________ ---
Instagram: @DaveHord
1971 1302s - Salzburg Tribute the #RallyBug
1958 Beetle
1975 Beetle
1973 Super Beetle
1993 C3500 with Cummins swap
1967 MGB
1963 MG Midget |
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owdlvr Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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peteandvanessa wrote: |
Tomorrow's plan is to remove the front beam, clean it up, then primer it and then spray it gloss black (have to do something until the floor pans arrive).
Also go a few tips from a VW guy at Bugorama today, he suggested drilling out the old factory welds on the old floor pans, which make it easier to remove and install the new pans. I'll try that next weekend. |
Use a proper spot weld cutter. They'll allow you to drill out the weld from the floor-pan side, without damaging / drilling through the chassis spine.
http://www.blairequipment.com/Spotweld_Cutters/Spotweld_Cutters.html
-Dave _________________ ---
Instagram: @DaveHord
1971 1302s - Salzburg Tribute the #RallyBug
1958 Beetle
1975 Beetle
1973 Super Beetle
1993 C3500 with Cummins swap
1967 MGB
1963 MG Midget |
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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owdlvr wrote: |
peteandvanessa wrote: |
Tomorrow's plan is to remove the front beam, clean it up, then primer it and then spray it gloss black (have to do something until the floor pans arrive).
Also go a few tips from a VW guy at Bugorama today, he suggested drilling out the old factory welds on the old floor pans, which make it easier to remove and install the new pans. I'll try that next weekend. |
Use a proper spot weld cutter. They'll allow you to drill out the weld from the floor-pan side, without damaging / drilling through the chassis spine.
http://www.blairequipment.com/Spotweld_Cutters/Spotweld_Cutters.html
-Dave |
Cheers for the tip Dave, I'm going to get myself one of those, sure looks like it will make the job easier. |
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jhicken Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2003 Posts: 9466 Location: Fallbrook, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Your pans look pretty solid from the pics you have, I don't see any holes. It just looks like surface rust. Are you sure they need replacing?
-jeffrey _________________ Der Kleiner Kampfwagens |
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Volks Wagen Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2013 Posts: 2926 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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jhicken wrote: |
Your pans look pretty solid from the pics you have, I don't see any holes. It just looks like surface rust. Are you sure they need replacing?
-jeffrey |
x2 _________________ 1973 1303 with AB-motor - sporadic
reconstruction as time permits, 1986 ex-Bundeswehr Doka - on the road again.
I'm definitely, probably, the worlds greatest lover.
Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8689 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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jhicken wrote: |
Your pans look pretty solid from the pics you have, I don't see any holes. It just looks like surface rust. Are you sure they need replacing?
-jeffrey |
X3.
If you throw your pocket change on the floor of your car and less than $1 worth lands on the ground, you don't yet need to replace your floor pans. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle |
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Volks Wagen wrote: |
jhicken wrote: |
Your pans look pretty solid from the pics you have, I don't see any holes. It just looks like surface rust. Are you sure they need replacing?
-jeffrey |
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Oh I wish, I wish. The pans are pretty bad with holes all over the right hand side about the size of a quarter in six or seven places. |
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Did a little more work today. Took off the front beam, wire wheeled it, then sanded, cleaned it up and then put on two coats of primer.
Followed up with two coats of gloss. Looking much better now.
Also picked up a couple of spot weld cutters today, so I plan next week to pull the chassis out and start taking out the rotten pans.
Here's a few pics from today:
Before:
After:
Bolts drying (plan to re-use as many original bolts, screws etc as I can) |
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peteandvanessa Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a few close up pics of the right hand pan to show the holes. The left hand pan is better, but since I have the body off I may as well do both.
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