Building a sedan delivery

eyetzr · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:24 am Post subject:

so you are done welding? Someone needs to check before we start letting him sling mud. Car loos great, planning a trip to your end of the woods & will be looking for a ride. Keep going & more pics.

grandpa pete · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject:

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The challenge was getting enough fresh air into the type 3 engine..
.Type 3's pull air in from the back of the engine and blow it forward over the engine
What I have done is cut a hole in the rear metal so the fan can pull air in .
The original type 3 boot fit between the engine and the rear sheet metal ; the air is being pulled in from the sides THROUGH the rear bumper that has been modified . I cut the ends off the bumper and reduced the size of the bumper brackets to allow maximum air flow .
I am currently looking for a second rear bumper or equivalent channel to add to the back ; that is why the hole cutout can be seen under the bumper

The bumper wasn't bolted in when I took these photos , might look a little crooked

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Now when I open the hatch I have access to the original type 3 engine hatch for minor adjustments
NOTE : the angle of this photo makes it VERY obvious how much extra room I will have with the type3 engine . Definitely worth the aggravation ( challenge )

For major work and easy engine removal ;
I remove the rear bumper and 6 screws and the back panel comes off allowing FULL access to the engine...I have a modified ATV jack and will be able to roll the engine out anytime Wink

still need to make dipstick adaptation . I know what it needs ; just have to Find the fittings and do it Rolling Eyes

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grandpa pete · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject:

Started "regular " bodywork ; fill...sand ; fill....sand ; fill....sand ; prime....sand ; fill....sand .....you get the idea....

AND ; I'm doing it OUTSIDE in Florida ( body work makes too much mess and the dust screws up the Window AC I have in the garage )

About 3 o'clock the sun gets by my shade tree
; I got too hot and needed to seal the primer ( primer and filler will absorb moisture if left outside ) so I "wasted " two spray cans of rustoleum...purple and silver

What a difference... Shocked

The weight of the engine and internal deck pulled the rear end down . The back lower corners I welded in lowered it more . Surprised

Progress

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eyetzr · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:46 am Post subject:

looking good. The hole you put in the rear will not work as well as pulling air from the sides. The car when moving forward will create a low pressure spot & the fan will not be able to pull air in to cool. You should try to stick to VW's idea of air in from the side. I put a small squirrel cage fan in the side to draw air in for traffic situations. I turn the fan on & off as I see fit, pulls air in the vent to the engine fan. Keep up the great work, I like the 2 tone.

grandpa pete · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject:

Hello MR eyetzr
...The air into the engine is coming FROM THE SIDES .....Through the Channel INSIDE the modified rear bumper and the second bumper OR similar channel that I find and add under the first bumper...
Sounds a little crazy but I have measured the square inch opening of an original air duct and I will have more airflow than that......

I like the fan idea ; bilge pump fans move the most air for their size ; Does your fan block airflow when it isn't running
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mkriglet · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject:

I like it! Thats gonna mske a nice camper. I bet you cant wait to drive it.

mkriglet · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject:

I like it! Thats gonna mske a nice camper. I bet you cant wait to drive it.

mkriglet · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject:

I like it! Thats gonna mske a nice camper. I bet you cant wait to drive it.

mkriglet · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject:

I like it! Thats gonna mske a nice camper. I bet you cant wait to drive it.

eyetzr · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:53 am Post subject:

The fan turns easy I would guess the air flow will turn it as I drive. I will see if I can "watch" it with a camera when I get back on the road.

Bobnotch · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject:

grandpa pete · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject:

That's a GREAT idea !!!!!
Just ran out to garage...license plate measures 12 inches wide AND 6 inches high...
.I can go back to the shop with the sheet metal brake and make my own 6 inch high by 3 inch deep channel the width of the bus ; put the license plate in the middle ; get side plate lights ; and do something decorative to break up the visual of all that metal...tail lights ??

First a little math ; original bumper 4x5=20 square inches
then we add License plate channel 3x6=18 square inches
20+18= 38 square inches of ducting to pull air into the center is more than the 37 sq inches of the original type 3 squareback ducting Shocked

cool !
THANKYOU MR BOBNOTCH !!!!
p.s.---By the time I put in a fat grandpa and a tank of gas the front end should even itself out Laughing

Or I'll lift the back when I get the smoothies and higher tires on Idea

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Derek Cobb · Annoying Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 2565

I don't see any taillights

Donnie strickland · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:41 am Post subject:

That Bob's pretty clever, eh GP? Very Happy

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eyetzr · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:41 am Post subject:

Yeah, Bob sits out there in the wild north waiting for the first glimpse of spring. Lots of time to contemplate the issues of the world & all those nagging vw issues. I do the same when I run the snow blower up & down the lane. Come up with great ideas for stuff. Hey GP car/truck/van/delivery/craft is looking good! Applause

grandpa pete · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:05 am Post subject:

Snow blower ???? Confused

..............What's that ?

Old joke

Chick
&
Snowman

BAD grandpa Embarassed

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grandpa pete · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:25 am Post subject:

I went to the plumbing supply and came up with this oil dipstick/supply tube idea....

bad idea....oh well ; $13
but ; I did learn that a 3/4 pipe could be threaded into the existing metric pipe

back to the drawing board...........stay tuned Razz

Derek ; Tail lights are WAY down on the to do list ; doors ; windshield ; plexiglass rear window ; wiring ; gas tank ; fenders ; front bumper ; headlights ; dash ; interior ; smoothies ; ..........stat tuned

Does anyone know why this picture would print so big ? ...I don't think I did anything different.......
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Bobnotch · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:33 am Post subject:


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