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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject: Test run of the cowl louvers Reply with quote

Thanks to a fellow VW hobbyist for the advice on the correct way to punch out the louvers. The first picture is just a rough
rendering to get the hang of things.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work indeed!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice work indeed!
Thanks! The work is actually relaxing. Spending time with my boy.
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This is a picture of the finished test panel. I will try to get to the real panel in the near future. The holes may look crooked, but are straight.
The panel warped just a little from forming the louvers and need further massaging.
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My little guy helping with the louvers.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice work. Glad to see you back on this. I am still in "collecting parts" mode. I need a split dash and a few other bits.

How did you do the louvers?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T2 wrote:
Very nice work. Glad to see you back on this. I am still in "collecting parts" mode. I need a split dash and a few other bits.

How did you do the louvers?
Just look at the picts.
Dril hole, stamp it bigger and concave, cut from hole to hole...bend the left over strip over a rounded iron with a U shaped profile... done.
Took me several attempts to find out how they are made. Then I teached others Smile Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Found the under hood braces for my Heb here on the Samba. Test fitted
On my buddie's 1950 standard.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Cool!
Price?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

They were advertised for $40 shipped. They are for a later car, but they'll be very convincing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

You may know.
But there is usually a metall tube welded to it that reaches up into the windscreen frame. And also it seems that yours are cut at the lower end.
They usually reach deeper down into the A-pilar and are fixed down there to the body.
Yours will reinforce as they are. But the way they once where works better.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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great picture for reference. I believe the tube is for defrosting the windshield? If so, I will need to cut open the windshield frame
and bend a tube for it. I will check my donor frame. It is a 1954 oval convertible front clip. My reinforcements are from a 1965 convertible,
so I will have to lengthen the reach into the footwell. Does your frame bolt on from the inside with 3 bolts?
Thank you for your input
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Thanks for that picture from me too! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:16 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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great picture for reference. I believe the tube is for defrosting the windshield? If so, I will need to cut open the windshield frame
and bend a tube for it. I will check my donor frame. It is a 1954 oval convertible front clip. My reinforcements are from a 1965 convertible,
so I will have to lengthen the reach into the footwell. Does your frame bolt on from the inside with 3 bolts?
Thank you for your input


Yes it is bolted to the body . Behind the reinforcements left and right of the foot area.
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The tube is not just for defrosting.
It has an opening to let the heating air out but then goes on through the frame. I think all around the windscreen. This will reinforce it. The roof, when locked, pulls a lot. So it is good to get as much strength there as possible.
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And before you finally place these braces in the front quarters you should take care of the semaphore slots. Later you will not have much access to that area. This is the early style. Later from spring 1950 the semas had closed boxes. But also welded on from the rear.
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The next problem youŽll get is this.
Vert meets sedan.
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When welded together it has to be shaped by lead.
Just the Heb has this "step" in right above the upper front edge of the door.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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And before you finally place these braces in the front quarters you should take care of the semaphore slots. Later you will not have much access to that area. This is the early style. Later from spring 1950 the semas had closed boxes. But also welded on from the rear.
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I've got these for mine.. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Nice work Carsten. Your heb will be nice when done. The tube goes around the top.
http://www.blech-manufaktur.de/media/Teileliste.jpg
Here you see all the parts.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Hebster52 wrote:

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I've got these for mine.. Wink

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As I wrote this is the early Heb style.
They started by using the common semaphore holding panels from sedans.
But notice! Left side sedan becomes right side Heb and right side sedan becomes left side Heb.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

Thanks, yes. I'm aware of the details. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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Super pictures and great information. This to me seems difficult to do until
I think of hand building the top frame and deck lid
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

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Super pictures and great information. This to me seems difficult to do until
I think of hand building the top frame and deck lid


You found these inner panels of a vert. Maybe try to find a windscreen frame of one as well. It would have the right size and would save you a lot of work.
One of a Heb has small differences on top where the front woodbow meets it. But that is almost not visible and not importand for your project.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Starting to build my Heb. all steel replica Reply with quote

You can also see the reinforcement tube laying just behind the windshield frame in this picture.

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