74 ghia type 4 project

Tonyorlo · Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject:

Joe, I would definitely like to see those pictures of the stock cooler. That seems like more work than its worth to me.

I figure it will be easier to do what is proven to work and get the dog house shroud. I will most likely get the scat one and try to source some thermostat flaps.

Mike, thanks for the response. I was thinking I could get the narrow axles to run a wider wheel. I guess Ill rule that idea out lol.

Id like to do some type of flare on the car, nothing too big. Dodge omni fenders look to have a nice small flare, Im not sure how close the wheel well arch is to the ghias though?

nextgen · Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject:

HI Tony here are two, one is a guy from Africa that copied the DTM and used the stock T-4 location

The other looks like a Sharpbuilt with the Porsche fan, but I have seen the Cali style with it also. The are 3 reasons I would think the cooler in the upright fanhousing is better 1- is it is the way VW designed it and after a kizillon years improved it by going to the dog house. 2 is Joe from OP put there and 3 Jake Raby left it there.

That said it was designed for the pancake and that is a great design. Sure it can be done but why reinvent the wheel.

Go to the second page of the link below and got to Arod and Joel's photos.

Arod and Joel

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Tonyorlo · Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:43 am Post subject:

Joe I agree with you, why try to re invent the wheel. That shroud looks nice, but that's a lot more work than I want to do.

Ive been contacting local machinists and none know or care to to know anything about vws. I'm a Chevy guy at heart lol, but I'm tired of that being all anyone works on. I guess I will buy the rotating assembly from John at air cooled, I wanted to re use the crank and rods, but Ill pay more to have them shipped out and re conditioned than to just buy ones all ready done.

Tonyorlo · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject:

What's needed to be done to fit 914 brakes to a ghia? It looks like the front caliper isn't any different than a ghia's, but what about the rear caliper? I haven't pulled the brakes off the ghia to compare yet.

I've got an original dog house fan shroud on its way, I've given up on fiberglass cyl covers, it's going to take more time than it's worth to finish them. I put a wtb add on here and have had a few people contact me with some shrouds for sale.

I've been spending some time ready about oil pumps. There's a lot of opinions out there about what's the best oil pump. The cb dry sump system looks nice, but I'm afraid to take the plunge on it.

nextgen · Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:07 am Post subject:

The rear 914 brakes are a hassle, I have them on my bug and for be honest I would not put them on again. You need a special adapter to accept them and special brackets for the emergency brake cables. Also you are playing with really old calibers that are expensive. If you want rear discs buy a new kit for the rears complete with emergency brake cable.
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Tonyorlo · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:35 pm Post subject:

That's probably what I'll do. Ideally, it would be nice to be able to get pads at a local shop if needed. Maybe I should look into 944 rear brakes? I don't know much about their parking brakes though.

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Tonyorlo · Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:48 am Post subject:

nextgen · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject:

THe 944 idea is great several guys in Europe I deal with have done it. They say like you said it is amazing that many of the parts are bolt up and you are getting modern brakes made for a sports car that is much heavier then your Ghia. Personally I am not familiar with it but I am sure some guys on the bug NG also have done it. There are a lot more bugs then Ghias so that is were to go.
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Tonyorlo · Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject:

After looking into it a little deeper, I don't think its what I need. Vented front and rear rotors are overkill for that little car. The rears are easy, but the fronts require some machine work to the spindle.

I got my 2 sets of type 4 cyl tins and dog house shroud today.

Tonyorlo · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject:

I haven't been on here for awhile. I finally got my garage finished, I have some down time so I decided to tear into the ghia. I'm working the dents out and I got the body off of the pan. I don't have an air compressor in the garage yet so I am limited to what I can do. Here's a few pics

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CiderGuy · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject:

I have a 3 car garage, but may now have garage envy.

Tonyorlo · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:09 am Post subject:

I worked out of a 2 car garage for years so this was a nice upgrade. Too bad it's full of cars which makes it a pain to work in.

John Moxon · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:15 am Post subject:

CiderGuy · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:47 am Post subject:

Tonyorlo · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:41 am Post subject:

Haha I guess I shouldn't complain about it being full. Its 36 x 28 with 14 foot ceilings. The plan is to get a 4 post lift eventually.

My ghia came with a few patch panels, but I want to put the earlier lower rear quarters on. Do all the Vw stores carry the same sheetmetal, or is one better than the other?

Tonyorlo · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:55 pm Post subject:

I have a few places on my car that I wont be able to make a patch panel for with the tools that I have. I will probably have a hard time finding them.

I need this panel for both LH and RH.

I figure Ill put a wtb add and see what happens. Im looking forward to seeing the car in primer now.

c21darrel · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:36 am Post subject:

I think those areas are pretty common to be rusted out. We fabbed a lot of the lower apron area.

Some of the metal is repoped and plenty of people parting out cars that will cut what you need.
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Tonyorlo · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:39 am Post subject:

I tried making the rear panel below the tail light, but I don't have the skill or tools to do it. The front doesn't look as bad to make. What year is your ghia? Is the holes for the bumper original that small? I searched for parts cars, but I must of used the wrong terms. Thanks for posting that!


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