Can someone post a picture of a shiftrod for me?

[schwim]

Hey guys,

I think my shift rod may be twisted. Could I get someone to post a shot from tip to socket, like this one so I can compare?

Thanks for your time!
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[grandpa pete]

...Shiftrods are NOT straight
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[schwim]

Not speaking of the bend in the rod for e-brake clearance grandpa, but the orientation of the cup in relation to the dimple. My cup sits at 1-1:30 when the dimple's at 12 as you sight down it.

I have searched a lot. I can't find a single mention of what I'm asking about. Either I'm using the incorrect terminology, or what I'm asking is oddball.

A pic or confirmation would be greatly appreciated.
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[Culito]

[schwim]

[offshores]

On my ’65 the shift rod is a bit different along with coupler, but if it had a twist like that it would throw things off. Also, the Bentley manual mentions checking for “wear and twists” in the shift rod. The ball socket part up front needs to be strait up for neutral and the indent coming from the transmission shift lever should also be straight up in neutral. Insert your current rod and coupler and only one of those will be straight up. Not sure about your year, but my guess is it’s twisted. Curious to hear a definite answer though.

[schwim]

[spicetraders]

I just pulled my 59 pan shift rod. What a bear to get out. But it also has some issues at least from what I read in Bentleys as stated previously rod has a bit of an zigzag in it.
With this being in a shortened 59 pan on a fiberglass dune buggy it is hard to know what is right to a normal full size, i would still think straight is right.
Looking at the pin dent vs the pipe elbow I see a very slight shift to toward the 1 o'clock spot but very slight.

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[schwim]

Thanks spice. I never got a response from any of the classified ads guys and nobody ever posted a definitive answer or pic so I'll be cutting and turning the one I have to line them up and see how it works.
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[spicetraders]

I was just in www2.cpi1.com. Searched for shift rods.
Seems that the early beetles have a bent rod to clear the brake tubes. There must also be a good working bushing inside the tunnels just be hind the shift hole. CPI1 has most of these parts on sale for the holidays so I am just going to buy a new bushing, coupler, and rod so I have a clean set up.
Looks like for a 59 beetle they have three choices so I am buying the one closest to my length.
I also like the weld in length adjuster listed in CPI1 make it nice to get things twisted just perfect and exact length for clean shifts.
A log of good info over in the samba kit/fiberglass forum on shift rod.
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[jhoefer]

[2nd67]

and definitley 12/12. i cant imagine how pissed someone must have been trying to get reverse?. somehow the trans must have been stuck in a gear so that the back side of the rod was held stationary while someone on the shifter was giving it everything they had!.

[schwim]

I can't imagine how it got twisted. I'm wondering if either the cup or dimple end has spun inside the rod. I'll take a gander at it and see something looks shifty(hehe).
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[glutamodo]

[spicetraders]

I got my new rod in for my 59 if you need a picture. Definite wave in the rod, and the line is straight from cup to detente. Price was right for a nice clean rod, bushing, and weld in end adjuster.
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[EVfun]

I just grabbed a '69 rod and put section of pipe into the hole (later models didn't have the dimple.) the cup is about 10 degrees clockwise when the rod was horizontal. I would guess the older rod had the same slight rotation between the cup and coupler ends. They generally use the same aftermarket shifters.

A 1959 Bug won't have a shift rod bushing. The old Bugs had a rolled steel hanger that doubled as a bushing and a leaf spring to push down on the shift rod to prevent rattles. I would say the old system is superior, so unless the steel bushing is worn out I'd wouldn't replace it with a newer hanger.
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[schwim]

[lovethatconvertible]

OK, This is the best I can do, I went out to my shop and squared up the Shift Rod with the slot in the front cup and went to the coupler end & found center, this is what I came up with. This Rod came out of a working, Shifting fine Bug. For reference the center of the Dimple looks to be 1mm off center towards the drivers side. To bad you didn't live closer, you could swing by and take it home with you. Hope it helps.

[schwim]

Wow, that's absolutely fantastic! Thanks so much! It looks like when the cup and dimple are at 12, the bend for the e-brake is rotated to about 4 o'clock. Would you say that is right? If so, this will help me figure out which end I've got the issue with.

Can I ask what year this rod came out of?

Thanks again so much for taking the time to set this up and take some pics. It's incredibly helpful of you.
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