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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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and the barndoor specific straight lip that goes on the mud panel. On 85 barndoors at the BenPon show only a few had this correct detail (mostly OG ones)... :
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Im interested in this detail...
Im assuming you mean the diagonal lip on the lhs there?
Who else has it?
Everett, does your barndoor have it? _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2005 Posts: 700
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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I pretty much ran out to my ambulance to see if it had it which it does for my 52 truck does not have it the truck still has original corners it must be a bus thing only... I'm watching this form like a hawk love to learn about stuff that's right in front of your eyes that you never see _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
(20-035778)kombi
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Ian 68 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2011 Posts: 176 Location: From Bristol UK now in Australia.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Outstanding work and detail, keep up the great work you are doing.
Hats off to you Sir.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
Lazaa wrote: |
and the barndoor specific straight lip that goes on the mud panel. On 85 barndoors at the BenPon show only a few had this correct detail (mostly OG ones)... :
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Im interested in this detail...
Im assuming you mean the diagonal lip on the lhs there?
Who else has it?
Everett, does your barndoor have it? |
This diagonal ridge?
No, my '55 is not like this and to the best of my knowledge my Bus is not repaired.
The rest of it looks the same but there is no diagonal there - the outside does follow the body line with a folded-over seam.
If he means the straight lip across the top - yes, my Bus is like that.
Photo of my 2/55 Deluxe
You can see my Bus has some light damage in the lower left corner and near the edge of the wheel well in the upper left _________________ How to Post Photos
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Thomas A Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2006 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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This is how my march 1951 looked like. I still have this part and will copy it to the new corners.
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ingenbremser Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2008 Posts: 197 Location: Gjøvik, Norway
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Nice detail , i went out in the garage myself to check on my jan 52 , but it is not much left but looks like it has the line after the inner edge of the lip . it is a panel . a crappy photo here https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1202177.jpg _________________ 52 split |
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the comments guys.. I am happy you like this built
About this detail, I copied it on my 52. I think it's actually an early detail, at least until mid 53 (20-049493 do have it).
D-train : yes, the right side gearbox mount tube is bent... maybe it fell on it while doing a service job or something else. I had the same problem on my 55 samba. Looks very common. But it's very easy to repair, especially when the bus is on the jig
RPGreg2600 : Not so much OG paint left indeed, but it is worth it to give it a try.... to keep the bus personality and don't make it look like all the other barndoor panel. |
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2000 Posts: 824 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:11 am Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
Lazaa wrote: |
and the barndoor specific straight lip that goes on the mud panel. On 85 barndoors at the BenPon show only a few had this correct detail (mostly OG ones)... :
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Im interested in this detail...
Im assuming you mean the diagonal lip on the lhs there?
Who else has it?
Everett, does your barndoor have it? |
My guess was that this was a 53/54 change. My November 53 standard had that style but my January 54 standard (if memory serves....will have to check on that this week) does not. _________________ www.thebustransfer.com
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53kombi Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 254 Location: Hot and Humid, Southeast
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for making sure that my new corner has that detail Mark. When I saw this info, I ran out to my garage to check. I should never have questioned it with Rafferty doing the work. Pleasant surprise to see it done correctly down to the smallest details! _________________ Looking for these items for my June '53 kombi:
Barndoor 25hp case 20-060XXXX (June '53)
Barndoor Eberspacher gas heater. ('53-'55)
1 barndoor 16" wheel (Lemmerz dated 2/53)
NOS german 25hp/36hp oil pump
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Bendango Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2005 Posts: 593
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:16 am Post subject: |
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FANTASTIC RESTO - i agree - working with what OG there is is a good plan especially when handled the way your doing it! _________________ I want a real garage.
WANTED - [WTB] 55-62 Bus Thin Lip Package Tray SWR
Getting Used - SWR 60 westy copy built by vw ( apparently )
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=320866
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2000 Posts: 824 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:57 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
RockStock wrote: |
Lazaa wrote: |
and the barndoor specific straight lip that goes on the mud panel. On 85 barndoors at the BenPon show only a few had this correct detail (mostly OG ones)... :
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Im interested in this detail...
Im assuming you mean the diagonal lip on the lhs there?
Who else has it?
Everett, does your barndoor have it? |
This diagonal ridge?
No, my '55 is not like this and to the best of my knowledge my Bus is not repaired.
The rest of it looks the same but there is no diagonal there - the outside does follow the body line with a folded-over seam.
If he means the straight lip across the top - yes, my Bus is like that.
Photo of my 2/55 Deluxe
You can see my Bus has some light damage in the lower left corner and near the edge of the wheel well in the upper left |
My mistake, I knew something was different . There is no indication of corner replacements on my bus and both sides are the same. Not really even sure why there would be both style lips combined. Everett, looking closer at your 55 , it appears there is a faint line. is it just grime or is it the same lip as mine just hiding under muck?
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:28 am Post subject: |
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BeaterBarndoor wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Photo of my 2/55 Deluxe
You can see my Bus has some light damage in the lower left corner and near the edge of the wheel well in the upper left |
My mistake, I knew something was different . There is no indication of corner replacements on my bus and both sides are the same. Not really even sure why there would be both style lips combined. Everett, looking closer at your 55 , it appears there is a faint line. is it just grime or is it the same lip as mine just hiding under muck?
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Weird, I do see a line in my photo but nothing in real life.
I cleaned it up with some cleaner and a rag and do not see any sort of ridge there like your Bus.
My Bus is thinly undercoated there so I guess it's possible it's filled in?
I don't see anything looking from the back side either so if it's also visible there, I don't believe my bus is like that.
Looking at where the "line" is in my photo it looks further inward then where the ridge lies on your Bus. _________________ How to Post Photos
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:55 am Post subject: |
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From my Feb 55
Believed untouched in this area
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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amazing work. can't wait for more! _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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busbarn Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2013 Posts: 31
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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This is from mine, a 1953 Portuguese kombi.
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Grönis Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Barkarby Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Aktiebolaget Stockholms Bryggerier |
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Lazaa wrote: |
Thank you !
No big update as I am still waiting for an important Gerson part, but that should arrive soon now, so then i can move one. The bus will not make it to BenPon though....
While waiting for the bulkhead panel, I did some work here and there and I will post some pictures later. But to begin, here is a great discover we did with my friend Yann while getting the front doors back to OG paint.
The bus was logo’d and this lettering indicates that it was originally owned by a brewery company called « Aktiebolaget Stockholms Bryggerier », who produced beer until 1980.
That’s an awesome discovery, which couldn’t have been done in the case of a full paint restoration where you just sand all the paint without carrying attention about the original one !
Then I've had the reg. papers who confirm the history of the bus.
The brewery bought the bus new in 1951 and sold it in 1956 to a fire equipment company. Then it's have been sold again in april 1958 and again in september 58 to the father of the guy who sold the bus to me.
Here are some documents I found about the brewery, but i will go to stockholms archives to investigate a bit more and try to find some pictures with the barndoor.
Of course i will load up the bus with correct wood crates :
We can still find some nowadays...
We can even find old bottles
Maybe the barndoor was loaded up somewhere around here ?
Not that much to show, but I will post some pictures of the bus soon.
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Hi Florian.
The other day I was at a flea market and found a bottle from Stockholm Breweries.
You can have the bottle if you want it.
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Hi Grönis ! Thank you, that's a nice find ! I already found some (really) amazing period stuff from the brewery, but I don't have this model of bottle yet, so I'd love to have it... I'll PM you
Otherwise, my front clip which was all beaten is now flattened and welded... almost ready to weld on the body.
I began to make the adjustments but it's far to be done.
This is by far the trickiest job I've never had to do. Very hard to make all the adjustments and door gaps OK...
Being alone to put the clip on and off doesn't make it easier, but with a little patience I will sort this out, i guess.
So it's not welded yet but at least, this view of the bus is REALLY motivating
Cheers
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Scotty Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 1531 Location: Northampton - Uk
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:05 am Post subject: |
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That front panel looks great, although persoanlly I feel it's a shame the patina has gone. _________________
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I'd be curious to know the length of his tip.
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2177 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:53 am Post subject: Re: The Barndoor from the swamp |
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What you mean with patina ? the many football size dents
or the swampy lower 20 cms of the nose ?
no I think Florian is doing this stuff right. Probably was too bent to have left it that way. I think it is even great that he managed to save the original nose panel.
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The Rascals Cats Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2013 Posts: 63 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Amazing job Florian ...
Keep the feeling and make this bus touch the Road ....LeMans Classic ???? _________________ Building my automotive dreams ....
Also i'm proud to be a " Rascal cat"...
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