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ipis
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 Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: Engine ct1600 t3 into type 3 squareback , is posible is same |
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| I have a question, is equal to or support one ct t3 volkswagen engine 1600 with one of type 3 squareback? I can put it? That recomendáis me? |
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ipis
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| Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Why? , and the block? And i Put my pieces is valid? |
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Mike Fisher
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Your English is hard to understand ipis.  Maybe you could type it up in Spanish and use a translation application to translate your Spanish to English? 
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ipis
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| Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| hi mike such these, tell me that the engine will not be valid, but the engine block and? and I put all of mine? is very difficult to find a squareback engine |
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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notchback,fastback,squareback engines are all the same and will interchange if that is what you are asking?
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| ipis wrote: |
| hi mike such these, tell me that the engine will not be valid, but the engine block and? and I put all of mine? is very difficult to find a squareback engine |
Is this a swing axle or IRS car? What year?
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ipis
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my car is a 69 year squareback is a second series
And the motor of adaptar is this
CT 039746 |
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ipis
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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And this si my motor
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Mike Fisher
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Your new motor looks like a bus or 411/412 engine? They will fit in your squareback with some work/welding etc. Read Nate's thread below from the beginning for some ideas.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6984238#6984238
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| I don't think its a type 4 engine, looks similar but not like a type 4 as I know it. Tin ware is not whats normally on the type 4 neither is the weird manifold/carby setup that this has. Is that a bus 1600 engine? |
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| I don't think its a type 4 engine, looks similar but not like a type 4 as I know it. Tin ware is not whats normally on the type 4 neither is the weird manifold/carby setup that this has. Is that a bus 1600 engine? |
It's way too small to see clearly, but it does look like a Type 4 or 914- 912E setup.
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google'd
nah definitely a 1600 bus engine. So that mean he can use the long block?
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Engine ct1600 t3 into type 3 squareback , is posible is |
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| I have a question, is equal to or support one ct t3 volkswagen engine 1600 with one of type 3 squareback? I can put it? That recomendáis me? |
If it helps other people reading this thread - I read this as him trying to install a T3 engine into a Squareback.
T3 = 3rd generation of Bus = Vanagon engine.
But I'm not sure that is a Vanagon engine?
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CT it's type 1-based, but with inbuilt oil filter and hydraulic tappets, heads are notoriously weak, cylinders are one-offs too, most people just use regular type 1 heads and p&c's when they rebuild the engine
to use it in a type 3 you would need to use all the type 3 tinware from your original engine, but I'm not sure at all about the interference between fan housing, oil filter and engine support bar
and now in spanish for the OP
el motor CT está basado en el tipo 1, pero con filtro de aceite incorporado y taqués hidráulicos. las culatas són muy frágiles, los cilindros son específicos también, la mayoría de gente utilitza culatas y cilindros normales de tipo 1 cuando rehacen el motor
para usarlo en un tipo 3 necesitarías usar todas las chapas de tu motor original, pero no estoy nada seguro de la interferencia entre la carcasa del ventilador, el filtro de aceite y la barra de soporte del motor |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:49 am Post subject: |
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more thanks for the info
muchas gracias por la info me ha servido de mucho |
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