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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: My LL 56 Reply with quote

My name is Stephane, I'm french. I buy this LL in the UK, without motor and gearbox

http://www.kglowlightregistry.com/index.php?action=listingview&listingID=455

I would find his story, he comes from the USA. If you have information about LL, I am interested.

I started to restore it, at the origin.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. I love to see these lowlights saved.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on your purchase Cool

This thread from 2006 is about your ghia when it first appeared…
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=183419&highlight=
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats! I hate to see all that beautiful patina go away, but it looks like you have a great start on a very thorough restoration. Funny, my low light's original destination was France.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a solid car to start.

Look forward to seeing your progress.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your encouragement.

I also like the patina, but the paint was not beautiful, and it was not the original patina, it was poorly repainted!


I want to restore the original configuration. it is February 56, and it is already registered LL registry.

The base is solid, that were a reason for my choice

Thank you for the link, it allows me to better know its history
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These 2 pictures show it just prior to it's sale to the UK Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Cool Cool

Thanks for the pictures .

Do you know who import it in UK ?

Is somebody know the name off the last owner in US ?

I dream to find the original motor , and all of original parts for restore it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was imported by ghia57 on here, came without the original engine,
so if it still exists it's in the states.

Pm'd you. Russ.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonjour Stephane,

Congratulations on the new car. Very Happy

I looked at it carefully, in 2006, when it was in California. The owner at the time told me that it was sold and lived in the center of California, near Fresno, for many years. He found it on a farm there, in original (stock) condition, but showing the effects of decades of the hot California weather. He removed the original motor, and installed a big engine, narrowed front beam, and the Fuchs wheels and other hardware required for the Fuchs.

The car was originally Lizard Green, of course, but at some point in time, it looked as though the roof and A- and C-pillars were painted white: probably to make the car more cool and comfortable in that part of California (where summertime temperature can often reach 42 degrees Celcius in the shade).

I found it interesting that the door panels were finished in a special brocade textile material, not full vinyl or corduroy/vinyl.

The original ribbed tarboards were present in the engine bay - very rare to see. Also, many details of hinges and underdash area peculiar to the very early cars can easily be seen, and the special early bumpers.

The owner seemed at the time to think the car was earlier (he thought September 1955), but by the number of the chassis and body, it was definitely February 1956 production.

Here are some photos of details of the car on that day:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool shots, what is the rod? in the rear hood channel
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
Cool shots, what is the rod? in the rear hood channel

Well spotted! These super-early cars had a different channel section on the front and rear lid seals than cars made later in 1956. There were a host of details which were quickly superceded by improved, or easier to construct characteristics.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for the pictures, Retrowagen , it's very nice of you to post here.

The body are many different details.

In addition to photos you put it, there is also the evacuation duct water front cover is different, and the door jambs are right.

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I am disappointed because between different change of ownership, the bumper was sold before I bought the car!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi from germany.
i love the lowlights, great story to bring him back to the road. it is an early ghia, isnt it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yes the Body has to be manufactured in 55, because there are lots of small details, specific early production
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steph27 wrote:
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Yes the Body has to be manufactured in 55, because there are lots of small details, specific early production


I don't entirely agree. This car was produced in 2/1956, and its details seem consistent with other early 1956's I have seen (though admittedly, I have not stripped the car to bare metal, as you have). And it is unlikely that Karmann would have kept the car's body in storage for several months, before assembling the car. They were working very hard to refine the construction processes for the new model, and meet a surprisingly massive demand. They simply could not build them quickly enough...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Retrowagen

my body is No. 1786 I know another 56 who is in No. 9000, and I know that a 55 in N° 250.

And features that are present on my body (right amount of doors, water drainage on the front, fastening joints covers, electric conduit pipes u in the right amount ect ..) the same checkout 55 .

I think a lot of changes have occurred 56 current between my body and No. 9000 I know.

Thank you to you for your interest in my KG, It is very boring to know the different characteristics
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Jan. '56, body number 1568 with Karosserie number 1572., so your car has to be a '56 car. Too bad the bumpers were sold, any idea who bought them?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

For the bumper, I'll try to find them, but not this lead !!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice car. in engine area i saw the ribbed wall"paper" (i dont know the englich word) i mean that only early ghia have had this kind of paper.
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