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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:46 pm    Post subject: 50/50 tail lights Reply with quote

Anyone seen a set of these type of 50/50 tail lights with the clear top?
Any info would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one got any idea.
I know there Italian or Australian.
Betting there aus as that's where im located.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of nor seen those before. If I randomly came across an image of them I'd not even think they were VW.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were JC Whitney replacements that had the turn signal on top like mid-60s models, but they were sized like the earlier housings. Those has amber tops, though. I wonder if this is a similar type of aftermarket style?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

these are standard 50/50 tail lights ,one year only.
both this set and the one above are identical.
but top pair are clear.
I know 50/50 are rare but with clear top,ive never seen this before
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
There were JC Whitney replacements that had the turn signal on top like mid-60s models, but they were sized like the earlier housings. Those has amber tops, though. I wonder if this is a similar type of aftermarket style?


As I look through my Gallery images of JC Whitney catalog entries from 1964, 1969, 1973, 1978, 1982, 1989 and 1992... I don't see a single listing that looks like those...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There genuine hella ,so not repros
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never come across a pair with clear lenses on top in Australia, only ever amber & red.

Maybe they were specific to the Italian market?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Italy they sold these taillights (amber but) as long as German cars still had semaphores.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyland wrote:
I've never come across a pair with clear lenses on top in Australia, only ever amber & red.


I've seen a few that have faded to clear on the top.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another gallery pic:

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But again, amber not clear.

Italian maybe?

I thought a mid-60s JCW catalog sold these as retrofits to have the safety of the '62-up design on older Bugs. Maybe they were discontinued in later catalogs? A lot of lighting was sold by JCW that did not meet DOT regs and maybe by '69 they were cracking down.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be. I think I seen an ad once, somewhere (but not Whitney), for the "Electric" style tail lights, but don't recall ever seeing those Italian style lights advertised. And the only lenses I've ever seen pictures of all had amber tops, this was the first time I'd heard of them being in clear... I can't imagine why anyone would want a clear tail light. Those are too nice of shape to just be faded.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can fade like that without much crazing.

Back when I worked at the garage one of our customers had a 61 Beetle she had owned since new that had 50/50s.

Some time in the 80s she reversed into her letterbox and smashed one.
I don't know which side it was but one looked clear like the above photos.


I can remember changing a blown brake light bulb in it and under where the screws sat in it's their recess was still bright amber so it wasnt originally clear but I don't know if it was the replaced side or the original, it Wasn't cracked or crazed.
I tried ordering a replacement lense as it was a roadworthy fail.

I hadnt paid much attention to the difference and didn't realise till I tried to get one they were a 60-61 Aussie and Italian only part.
lets just say when I finally found one she wouldn't pay what it was worth and that was back in the 90s.

Someone on AVD has a NOS pair forsale at the moment for $400..... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there not faded there nos, never been used
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just twigged to me thats the pair you selling Wink

Stick them on ebay, the last pair I saw on there that werent even NOS went for over $300.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both pairs will be for sale
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they were original,just got a call with some more info on them.
found out they are repos in a sense that they have been made from the original vw moulds
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, easy for me to claim now, but... those little air bubbles in the upper part didn't quite seem Hella quality when I first saw the post. But they are darn close, and a cool accessory!
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