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BlueWeasel
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:15 pm Post subject: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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Few days ago I came across iMohr's T2 double wishbone setup for Bays.
Curious if anyone's installed one and if so what they think.
From talking to them and other discussions it sounds like even without the beam being narrowed like the Red9 offering it would accept 73+ standard spindles to support disc brakes.
iMohr's answers are a bit...short... so I'm trying to do some additional research for reviews. |
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pkrboo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:22 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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red9 beam is standard width and comes with spindles for disc brakes already
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Brian
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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People here rather buy 6 $50 distributors than a working $200 distributor. Doubt anyone here has dropped 6k rubles or whatever for some suspension.
The pictures they have on the site look like early bay spindles, but as I can recall I think late bay spindles would work. Its just a matter on where the caliper will hit.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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I'd rather buy ten $25 distributors, thank you.
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SGKent 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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I was thinking seeing Paris France again would be a better value for my money.
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BlueWeasel
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| I was thinking seeing Paris France again would be a better value for my money. |
Wholly useless comment without supporting information as to why.
Customers seem to really like the Red9 solution. Useful information would be to compare/contrast why iMohr isn't.
If you are wholly opposed to the idea of a suspension replacement like either company offers then you're certainly wasting everyone's time by replying. |
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SGKent
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| BlueWeasel wrote: |
| SGKent wrote: |
| I was thinking seeing Paris France again would be a better value for my money. |
Wholly useless comment without supporting information as to why.
Customers seem to really like the Red9 solution. Useful information would be to compare/contrast why iMohr isn't.
If you are wholly opposed to the idea of a suspension replacement like either company offers then you're certainly wasting everyone's time by replying. |
Ok - 500.000 miles driven in bays and they drive smoother than any modern car I've had other than several mid-1990's Acura Legends. Current daily driver is a new Acura MDX SH-AWD. You'll find that my 1977 Bay with factory brakes stops in the same distance as modern SUV's, and I can out corner most when I am on winding roads. I'd rather see Paris France again than give someone money to tamper with the success that old man Porsche designed. Most any bay owner whose bay is properly adjusted will tell you the same. Find someone with a properly tuned and adjusted bay, drive it, and you'll never think about changing the front suspension like that. Yes they do roll over because of the high center of gravity if they are stiffened too much and no a wishbone doesn't change that. Think about it - VW bay had an IRS suspension before it became popular on sports cars.
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BlueWeasel
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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Doesn't stop me from wanting a lowered vehicle.
Power steering by 'Armstrong' doesn't help my shorter than me wife manage the large steering wheel and no EPAS.
It still comes back to me looking for a compare/contrast vs Red9. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| BlueWeasel wrote: |
Doesn't stop me from wanting a lowered vehicle.
Power steering by 'Armstrong' doesn't help my shorter than me wife manage the large steering wheel and no EPAS.
It still comes back to me looking for a compare/contrast vs Red9. |
then put it in the lowering thread and not here. Lowering a Bay
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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Have you got a link for the Imehr?
The red nine is a great upgrade, if you don’t want stock.
The perk of a red9 is that ALL the parts are off the shelf VW parts from newer cars, so you can buy replacements right from the dealer.
You can lift and lower some 6 or 8 inches with it as well.
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pkrboo
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:07 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Have you got a link for the Imehr?
The red nine is a great upgrade, if you don’t want stock.
The perk of a red9 is that ALL the parts are off the shelf VW parts from newer cars, so you can buy replacements right from the dealer.
You can lift and lower some 6 or 8 inches with it as well. |
Not quite, the steering rack is T25/vanagon the top ball joint is T25/Vanagon and the shocks are off the shelf. the wishbones and the rest are all custom handmade.
the steering rack makes it very light but not power steering light. If power steering is what/need you want then have a look at Litesteer
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BlueWeasel
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:16 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Have you got a link for the Imehr?
The red nine is a great upgrade, if you don’t want stock.
The perk of a red9 is that ALL the parts are off the shelf VW parts from newer cars, so you can buy replacements right from the dealer.
You can lift and lower some 6 or 8 inches with it as well. |
https://www.imohr.com.br/en/products/7/vw-bus-t1t2-double-aarm-front-suspension |
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BlueWeasel
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:18 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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Not quite, the steering rack is T25/vanagon the top ball joint is T25/Vanagon and the shocks are off the shelf. the wishbones and the rest are all custom handmade.
the steering rack makes it very light but not power steering light. If power steering is what/need you want then have a look at Litesteer |
I don't think things need to go so far as Litesteer. If that was my concern I've seen others add EPAS at a fraction of the cost. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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What? You can get 10 distributors in Paris for 25 Euros?
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
Have you got a link for the Imehr?
The red nine is a great upgrade, if you don’t want stock.
The perk of a red9 is that ALL the parts are off the shelf VW parts from newer cars, so you can buy replacements right from the dealer.
You can lift and lower some 6 or 8 inches with it as well. |
Not quite, the steering rack is T25/vanagon the top ball joint is T25/Vanagon and the shocks are off the shelf. the wishbones and the rest are all custom handmade.
the steering rack makes it very light but not power steering light. If power steering is what/need you want then have a look at Litesteer |
You are correct. I meant to say all the WEAR items are off the shelf replaceable.  thanks!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| What? You can get 10 distributors in Paris for 25 Euros? |
There are books out there that will help improve your reading and comprehension.  But seriously folks, that beam does look pretty cool. Maybe when mine rusts out I will get one.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:41 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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So i'm guessing nobody has one of these then?
Always thought i'd get a Red9 eventually, but am open to other options as have heard the quality of the Red9 kit has gone down recently, might not be true though. |
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BlueWeasel
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:51 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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I looked hard at it.
Red9 is more expensive but has more that comes with it like the bevel box and late Bay spindles.
I've ordered neither but am considering going with Red9 and moving onto other areas of restoration. I figure I can always sell the beam, spindles, and steering box out of my Early Bay (which all look rather good) and recoup some of the cost. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:02 am Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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Will either of them work for stock ride height?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: iMohr on a Early Bay |
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| Will either of them work for stock ride height without losing ground clearance? |
While the original question is a good one, the part I added in bold is also relevant I think, Depending on what you're doing, stock ride height may not be much good if the lowest point of the suspension is 2-3" off the pavement... |
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