Amazonas Motorcycle

2weel · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:40 am Post subject: Amazonas Motorcycle

Thought I would share a couple pic's of one I rolled out of my trailer and into my garage yesterday. I Finally found one after over 15 years of looking. Non runner. But Complete!

These motorcycle were built in Brazil mostly because the country had huge duties (fee's) on large displacement imported motorcycles and the countries infrastructure was proving many nicer roads to ride on during this period. The company built from 1978 to 1989 450 units. This one is a 1600cc DP, 4 spd, Dual disc brakes up front single Disc rear, Chain driven, weighs 950 plus pounds with fuel on board, but don't fret! This bike has Reverse.

Here ya go a 1983 Amazonas

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crsmp5 · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject:

id love to see as many pics as you can share.. naked no tin pics, close ups of how the chain fitted so on... i have a bike idea to make up and id love to see how they did things.. heard of this in my late teens and till now never seen pics... love how they did the cooling tin..

2weel · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject:

crsmp5 · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:25 pm Post subject:

well from the conversation 20 years ago, they made 2 kinds, a low and high hp version.. duel carbs was rasy way to tell..

t was told they locked the drive flange on one side, then chain drive off the other.. anhd id love to see if such things are true..

shifter... what did they do?

i wanna build a newer watercooled kind.. just i wonder how they did the tranny... and seeing how air cooled was done helps

BL3Manx · Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:19 pm Post subject:

crsmp5 · Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:38 am Post subject:

but i wanna see how they rigged their foot shifter thing, left foot by way things look, for the shifter.. as unlike most, it does not look to have hand shifter..

vwbug72501 · Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: I've got pics

I've got some pretty good pics of the shifter mechanism and YouTube links to Brazilian sites showing the shifter in operation. Let me find them. I'd really be interested in some dimensions for the shifter. It looke ugly but seems to work. Might take acouple of days. Glad to find someone who has one of these things where I won't have to learn Portugese.

2weel · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:56 pm Post subject: Driveline pic's

OK here ya go on how a Amazonas gets power to the chain drive and how the shifter system looks.

This is on the right side

Here is the left side. Had to pull the starter to get the battery out.

Here is the shifter controls the rider uses

Here is the where the shifter controls translate into gearbox commands

crsmp5 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:08 am Post subject:

so how does the shifter work? just back fourth, or does it also go side to side?

i would have expected the chain to be on the left side..

thanks for the pics.. what a odd duck that is..
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2weel · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:57 am Post subject:

crsmp5 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:52 am Post subject:

i have a kubvan, know a horder with a kurbwatt i got to drive even... so yea i like odd... i also love being master of knowledge on odd crap like kubvans... not so much on air cooled as one would expect.. just never got into them...

all i know is document it all... be king of info... taken me 20 years to see pics of one... so not like i rushing... just enjoying.. Smile

www.driiive.com is a nice face book for yur carbike... i was their first kubvan... someone else has done a bike.. but not one of these... Very Happy

free gallery/pic hosting.. timeline you can fill in during build.. they were few mo old when i found them.. they have done well.. i just hope the war brewing in their door steps do them no harm.. they over in poland area... Sad

but car guys they are and lots of odd euro stuff to look at..
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2weel · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: Finding parts

Wow! Finding parts for this bike is a challenge for sure.

But check this out!

I put up a thread over in the performance section looking for help on identification of use for the Weber carb that is used on an Amazonas. Within 24 hours a Samba member (Boolean) from Stockholm Sweden gave me a heads up on where he has seen these carbs used before. Once I had that info the search was on. I bounced around the internet and made a few call's around the USA using his info and WHAMMO! I get a guy on the phone who says "there is only one company we know of that may supply this for you and here is their name and number" Good Luck! I make the call and sure enough they don't sell many rebuild kits for this model carb and he had to look it up (obviously these parts guys don't look much up and are old school SHARP) but within seconds I have two 2 rebuild kits being shipped to me. Crazy thing is they are less than 200 miles from where I live?

crsmp5 · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:22 am Post subject:

rumor is they made 2 models too.. one had duel carbs, high performance version.. and single carb version...

but ok.. looking at the pics.. ive wondered.. how did they supply air to it??

the manifold is on it reversed..

the fan shroud is built backwards.. does it have a generator or magneito type.. stuff ive been waiting for more pics of.. but no rush.. more courious how the ducted air to carb, and cooling.. and is there a "fan belt" in the hole..

also.. how do you add oil? or check it with sich a fan shroud..

yea i spent too much time looking at your pics.. Very Happy

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oorwullie · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject:

i've found these things fascinating for a long time but never knew there were so few actually built.

interesting stuff indeed. Cool

2weel · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: Maybe this will be of interest ?

I play with VMW's. VMW's are VW powered BMW's. Sold in kits or from two BMW dealers on the West Coast during the early 70's.

This is a Butterfield

Same bike, Going Cafe just got lazy and hitched a ride in my CC

This is a Willis 4's with a Ural sidecar

Pilot of the Willis 4's

I believe this to be a Brown. Cafe anyone?

oorwullie · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject:

yep, i 've seen other things with vw flat fours as well as the BMW.

i presume you are also a paul butterfield fan? Laughing

Link

2weel · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:57 pm Post subject:

vwbug72501 · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: Shifter links

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3iX7HmSqDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIRGaqJQ4cw

You have the earlier (cruder) shifter model. I have pictures of that one that I haven't been able to locate yet. The link above shows the latest model shifter design that looks much better. If you search for "trambulador" you will find more videos about the shifter and operation. Downside: they're all in Portuguese. I'll post as soon as I can locate them. I'm definitely interested in some dimensions when you get into it enough to take some measurements.

I'm interested in this for a front engine VW trike that I'm building.

2weel · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Shifter links

Dr OnHolliday · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:09 am Post subject:

Great thread!

I'm fascinated by VW powered bikes and want to build some.
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