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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Gas line replacement guide? Reply with quote

Hello - I have looked at a few posts and just making sure I fully understand this process as its very important. Replacing fuel lines!

I have a 73 Sportsmobile and the engine has dual carbs on it.

1.) Do I need to pull the engine to replace the fuel lines?
2.) Braided cloth fuel lines the best?
3.) New fuel filter with the little arrow facing the engine?
4.) A how to or good screen shots on how the lines get replaced? I was looking for something like the Bug-Me video but for the bus Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Gas line replacement guide? Reply with quote

rustednuggs wrote:
Hello - I have looked at a few posts and just making sure I fully understand this process as its very important. Replacing fuel lines!

I have a 73 Sportsmobile and the engine has dual carbs on it.

1.) Do I need to pull the engine to replace the fuel lines?
2.) Braided cloth fuel lines the best?
3.) New fuel filter with the little arrow facing the engine?
4.) A how to or good screen shots on how the lines get replaced? I was looking for something like the Bug-Me video but for the bus Smile

Thanks in advance
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There are a million threads on best fuel line. Cloth covered German hose people still use. Others like the gates barricade. Research and use proper size and style clamps if needed.

As for having to remove engine to replace lines that is highly unlikely! Being you have duel carbs you may have a hard to get to line if routed behind doghouse. But still doable.

Filter yes arrow goes same direction as flow, toward engine.

As for a video of how to Shocked just get in there and get your hands dirty. But first disconnect battery ground! Have sharp pair of clippers to cut new hose lengths. Use the old hose to measure your new lengths.

Make sure you use proper clamps for fuel hose. Here is a website a member posted recently that seems to have a good selection of hose and clamps.

https://www.belmetric.com/metric-hoses-multifuel-h...0olmklnfn6
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most difficult part will probably be trying to remove the firewall with the carbs in place. Since you'll be removing the firewall, I would also recommend checking the fuel hose and pipe from the refill to the gas tank. Those can sometimes begin to leak with age. Not sure if they are available any longer for the '73. Seems like German Supply had a replacement but can't remember if it would fit our year.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barefootwestie - To remove the firewall that sounds like engine removal? Yes? "The fuel hose and pipe from the refill to the gas tank..its larger hose? I keep thinking about the one on the beetle.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you don't have to remove the engine to remove the firewall. And DO NOT use the cloth covered hose...it used to be the best there is, now it's absolute shit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, i was able to remove mine with removing the engine. I do have a single carb but was able to remove the firewall without removing anything. Not sure about the dual carbs though. May be necessary to remove the carbs to make it easier.

Yes, the fuel refill is large like 2". Looks like this: Fuel Filler Rubber Hose Bus '72-'76
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool appreciate all the insight, but if the cloth braided lines are crap, what would one suggest I use. Can I get these @ Napa, Autozone, or Oreilly's?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced mine with fuel line from Advance Auto 7 years ago and haven't had any problems. I just make it a point to check mine several times a year. I don't recall ever hearing anything negative about Gates brand.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gate Barricade 30r14 low pressure hose.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wondering also if the fuel filer should sit behind the firewall or under the bus. Currently its in the engine compartment. Like my beetle I would think that was a no no...and I should move it elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used hose that was rated for high pressure fuel injection...a bit expensive, but it will last a long time...and yes, that cloth covered hose looks nice, but it's garbage compared to the FI hose.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wondering also if the fuel filer should sit behind the firewall or under the bus. Currently its in the engine compartment. Like my beetle I would think that was a no no...and I should move it elsewhere.

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I have no problem at all with a well located and mounted metal fuel filter in the engine compartment.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wondering also if the fuel filer should sit behind the firewall or under the bus. Currently its in the engine compartment. Like my beetle I would think that was a no no...and I should move it elsewhere.

Thanks in advance!
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Better if it's under the bus a few inches from the tank outlet, the weight of the filter in the line to the carb tends to pull the fitting out and spray gas all over the engine.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are those these filters?
http://www.busdepot.com/133133511

I am finding I have several different sized hoses under the bus for fuel delivery. Just a lovely job..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those filters will be 7mm incoming and 10mm outgoing.

Have you been here?

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses.html

Also are you using the stock mechanical pump or does it have an electrical pump? You need to know what size the hoses are. One of those cheap little calipers from HF is nice to own < $10.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSamba just rocks! Yes I hav ebeen gathering numbers from that site to start looking for hoses. Thanks for heads up...electric pump
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also if I might ad...

Once you figure out the hose size, go down to NAPA and buy a metal filter for $5. Some of them are 1/4" (~5mm) on each side and some are 5//16" (~7mm) on each side. Put it before the pump under the bus, not in the engine compartment.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet advice. I hope they have everything I need, fuel lines, clamps, and this filter!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that Gates Barricade hose myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rustednuggs wrote:
Wondering also if the fuel filer should sit behind the firewall or under the bus. Currently its in the engine compartment. Like my beetle I would think that was a no no...and I should move it elsewhere.

Thanks in advance!
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Here is what the fuel filter looks like:

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Fuel-Filter-Gold-/_/R-FIL3031_0322934988
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