pedal assembly

johnfraser · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: pedal assembly

could anyone please explain to me how to put the pedal assembly on a 64 bug together-it is all in pieces and i didnt take it apart from the car. i have the haynes but not sure i quite understand it, if someone could please help out with the haynes aswell i can hopefully get it understood and done.
many thanks

Dangermouse · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject:

Right hand drive car?

I've got -

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and you might find this thread helpful http://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=823939

HTH,
- DM
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johnfraser · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:16 pm Post subject:

Oh dear
I don't have hardly any of those parts
Do I need all the diagrams?! Even more confused now!

Dangermouse · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:40 pm Post subject:

Well no, you don't need all the diagrams necessarily as they illustrate more or less the same thing - how the RHD pedal cluster fits together.

If you don't have all the bits or don't feel confident to put everything together then I'd recommend seeing a professional; remember the pedal cluster is a critical part of your braking system and you don't want it to fail because a key component was missed out or wrongly assembled.

Maybe post a pic of what you have got and people will be able to help you.
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johnfraser · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:24 am Post subject:

Thanks, I think that would be a good idea-ill get some photos. The bits that I do have are getting sprayed at the moment but should be done next week. Hopefully by then I can get some parts that I definately don't have ordered.

grandpa pete · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:14 am Post subject:

Dangermouse : thanks for the volkszone connection....I've been doing VW"S for years and didn't know about that site ......great video "how to " collection.......love the "How to start with a cargo strap " one
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johnfraser · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:31 am Post subject:

Hi

i now have some photos of what parts I have, I am probably missing some more. Not sure which of those diagrams applies to my year (64)- I am guessing the second and third.

I basically would like to have all the parts for the pedal assembly, aswell as cables and whatever is needed to run to the back of the car.

Anyway here goes

Excluding the calipers, I have the clutch and brake pedals, accelerator pedal shaft, brake pedal return spring, a pin (not sure on this one, though i think it has something to do with going through the hole in the brake pedal piece?), and four plates-pieces 22, 30, 15 and an unknown, the angled one with two little tabs and two holes.

Here I have a stop plate, accelerator hinge, push rod and another stop plate?

Then a clutch sleeve, rubber boot (for cable tube outlet??) accelerator linkage repair kit, a piece of conduit(throttle cable?) throttle cable tube kit and accelerator return spring kit

Then lastly a wing nut for clutch cable (not sure if this is needed for my year), 4 circlips and some sort of rubber boot.

I have also just ordered an accelerator pedal and number 30 on one diagram, the cover that fits over the hole in the tunnel on the passenger side. Also a clutch and throttle cable.

I know this is going to require some piecing together, but could anyone please help me to work out if this is all I need to piece this together. Also, perhaps after that, could someone try and help me to work out how to piece it together. I realise that it is an important and potentially dangerous part of the car. But we have all got to start somewhere, I have managed to get so far from an empty shell to here using manuals and this site-and unless I have to I would like to put the car together then get a mechanic to give the car a proper look over once it is nearly ready for the road. I would like to learn how to do this but need some help Smile

Thanks guys

Dangermouse · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject:

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johnfraser · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:24 am Post subject:

Wow thanks

So apart from the bottom three in red is there anything else you think I need?

And are there any other parts I need to link the cables the the back of the car?

Thanks again

johnfraser · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:34 am Post subject:

And is that rubber seal that is nla essential ?

shippey87 · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:33 pm Post subject: Stop Plate and Brake Spring

Does the stop plate come in different lengths?
I replaced my floor pans on my 65 vert and I have started to assemble the pedal assembly and the stop plate does not come anywhere close to the clutch pedal.
Also, the other end of the brake spring....does it go on top of the back bolt that holds the whole assembly into the tunnel ? I know the "hook" part goes to the brake pedal.

Thanks

Jon

wayne1230cars · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject:

There are various pedal stop plates depending upon application and whether you have replacement or original floor pans. WW sells various ones. Check out this link.http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111721231G
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111721231B
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johnfraser · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:13 am Post subject:

Why are the plates different and how and where are the aftermarket ones fitted?

rusty60 · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:03 am Post subject:

Here a photo that helped me that I found, I had a replacement pan, had to weld the hole up that was pre drilled, I drilled new hole and welded nut below to get alignment similar to the pic. I also had to grind a little on the stop so it did not drag on the brake lever. Bottom line pedals position is what the stop sets.

johnfraser · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:17 am Post subject:

Do you have a diagram for where that and the accelerator hinge goes by any chance?

rusty60 · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject:

I did this same thing a little over a week ago, Did quite a bit of hunting for layout and photos. look at the white line in the photo, center line of the pin is approximately 6 3/8 to 6 1/2 inches from the firewall. I drew the the line, hooked up the pedal assembly and found where it cleared the brakepedal and seem to opperate the smoothest. Inside edge of bracket is about an inch from the tunnel. Should be dangerously close.

vdubadm · Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject:

johnfraser · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject:

Could anyone please tell me how these parts are fitted?
http://www.status-vw.co.uk/111-721-615-accelerator-linkage-repair-kit-vw-beetle-1958-1966.html
Got the rod and return spring in ok but not sure on the rest of it

Also all parts from

http://m.vwheritage.com/productDetails.cfm?iItemID=88648

And what goes on the end of the clutch cable at the gearbox end, on a 64

Eric&Barb · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:52 pm Post subject:

Maybe this will help. Washers go one per end of the Z-bar.

Straight long pin with the long armed spring is the hinge pin for the pedal, the spring fits in the groove of the pedal pin to lock that pin from sliding out of the pedal. Pin goes thru the spring loop. Short end of the spring pushes against floor pan while the other long end sits against the forward side of the pedal. In essence the spring gives the groove in the pin a wedgie.
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johnfraser · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject:

Thanks. I've got those bits sorted its the z bar, normal spring and pin which I'm not sure about?


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