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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

looks good Smile
explain the struggle to start. My stroked WW dual carb 8.5-1 CR 6 volt bug starts fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

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looks good Smile
explain the struggle to start. My stroked WW dual carb 8.5-1 CR 6 volt bug starts fine.
cranks over painfully slow. The bone stock 40hp that I just removed , started no problem. Some one suggested a Optima red top 6v battery. I don`t know if it will fit under the stock battery cover.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

how hard is it to turn over by hand ? and did you check the starter draw with a meter?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Type 3 1500S motors were higher compression 1500's, and the starter for that car was bigger than a standard compression 6v type 3 and different from a standard bug or bus 6v.

part number 311 911 021, .6hp vs .5hp. Seems minor, but use a bug starter on a 1500S high compression dome piston type 3 and you will see the difference
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

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I've said this before and I'll say it again. Type 3 1500S motors were higher compression 1500's, and the starter for that car was bigger than a standard compression 6v type 3 and different from a standard bug or bus 6v.

part number 311 911 021, .6hp vs .5hp. Seems minor, but use a bug starter on a 1500S high compression dome piston type 3 and you will see the difference
I could find a needle in a haystack easier than finding that starter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

You have replaced the starter motor bushing, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

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You have replaced the starter motor bushing, right?
I can`t remember ever changing the bushing. Battery was changed 3 times since 1998. Maybe time for a new one? Last one was May 2009. Bought from the tractor store. Getting close to 8 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

snowbug wrote:
60ragtop wrote:
looks good Smile
explain the struggle to start. My stroked WW dual carb 8.5-1 CR 6 volt bug starts fine.
cranks over painfully slow. The bone stock 40hp that I just removed , started no problem. Some one suggested a Optima red top 6v battery. I don`t know if it will fit under the stock battery cover.


It's a little taller but it does fit.
You have to extend or loosen the stock clamp a little if you want to use the stock battery cover and clamp.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

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60ragtop wrote:
looks good Smile
explain the struggle to start. My stroked WW dual carb 8.5-1 CR 6 volt bug starts fine.
cranks over painfully slow. The bone stock 40hp that I just removed , started no problem. Some one suggested a Optima red top 6v battery. I don`t know if it will fit under the stock battery cover.


It's a little taller but it does fit.
You have to extend or loosen the stock clamp a little if you want to use the stock battery cover and clamp.
Thanks Everett, Need the stock height with cover to fit under the seat. Maybe the Optima can run on it`s side? or maybe I just need a new lead battery.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

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You have replaced the starter motor bushing, right?
I can`t remember ever changing the bushing. Battery was changed 3 times since 1998. Maybe time for a new one? Last one was May 2009. Bought from the tractor store. Getting close to 8 years.


Then I suggest replacing it before doing further investments. It's a common mistake to invest in batteries and new starter motors when the root cause is a two dollar bushing. The modern sintered bushings are much better than the brass ones by the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

I run my optima on its side. Fitted a new earth lead and +'ve lead to the starter to give enough length and added covers over each terminal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 1300 Super 36 Reply with quote

Nice looking build! I was thinking of trying those type 3 carbs on my 36er, Any special mods that need to be made on these carbs, or where to start out with jetting them would be helpful.
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Nice looking build! I was thinking of trying those type 3 carbs on my 36er, Any special mods that need to be made on these carbs, or where to start out with jetting them would be helpful.
Jetting seems close , maybe a bit rich. Intakes are home made. New Exhaust flanges make the perfect carb mount flange. Got rid of the electric fuel cut offs because they were 12 volt. Home built linkage from type 3 bits. No chance to drive around yet as the roads are too salty.
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