Pure Gas - Non Ethanol

Syncro Jael · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: Pure Gas - Non Ethanol

I was just looking for some stations along our intended driving route that has Ethanol-Free fuel.

I try to run this in all my old cars. Because we know what this does to rubber seals, hoses, etc.

Here is a site for you to find some in your area. Pray

There is also an app for your smartphones "Pure Gas" It uses your location to find you the closest stations.

No wonder we got better fuel economy crossing Canada last year. It was PURE GAS! Shocked

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pure-gas/id454559068?ls=1&mt=8

http://pure-gas.org/
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insyncro · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:13 am Post subject:

Yup, we have a station putting the dedicated pump in right now in my area.

My brother has a few hundred gallons on hand at all times as he works on vintage motorcycles, quads, jet skis....the toys Wink

The difference Efree fuel makes is very noticeable Exclamation

We cut our race fuels with it too.

fraggle00 · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:14 am Post subject:

Thanks!
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MayorMcCheese · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:12 am Post subject:

Pricey though
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zeohsix · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:34 am Post subject:

Cancer to our old cars brought by government decree. That's why I'm plumbing my Syncro 1.8T in SAE nylon fuel lines and not the rubber that was in the kit.
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insyncro · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:58 am Post subject:

scottbott · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject:

I am pretty sure that here in the UK that petrol retailers most expensive,fancy fuel is ethanol free,I only used 20 quid for the whole of the last year as I run on LPG,I will be using more now as I am in the middle of fitting a webasto petrol heater,maybe as much as 40 quid a year!!

Corwyn · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:46 pm Post subject:

Not knowing what your route is, we have ethanol-free gas in Olympia, WA.
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photogdave · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:57 pm Post subject:

From reading various threads here and elsewhere, including opinions from well-respected Vanagon experts, there doesn't seem to be any conclusive evidence that E10 gas does any harm to our vans. Some anecdotal reports of slightly poorer MPG but that's about it.
Since pure gas is only available at highest octane around here, and since most agree it's a waste of money to run high octane in the stock motors, I have to wonder if it's worth it?
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Steve Arndt · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject:

There are a few stations with E0 pure gas here. Be aware it usually comes from low volume and bottom tier stations. Here it comes out of the pump loaded with diesel content and acts like stale gas right out pump. Chevron or Shell 91 E10 is much more detonation resistance than the 91 no name E0 here.

Howesight · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject:

SCP_Austin · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject:

There is evidence in every rusty fuel tank that E10 is bad.

Anyone who doesn't believe E10 contributes to that has their heads in the sand. E-free should actually be cheaper than E10.
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photogdave · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject:

[email protected] · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Pure Gas - Non Ethanol

Ethanol affects (ruins) combustion. My street car runs E85, and I've been running it for 10 years. The engine is built TO run it. I know a lot about it, and here's some good info, notwithstanding the corrosive effects of it.

E0 is 0% Ethanol, and 100% gasoline.
E10 is 10% ethanol, and 90% gasoline.

If you have access to pure gasoline, you'll find that you can go farther on .9 gallons of pure gas, than you can on 1 gallon of E10 (90% gas, and 10% ethanol). Yes, the ethanol hurts things that much.

Yes ethanol is flammable, and yes it can be used in an engine. But when mixed with gasoline it affects combustion and is not as efficient. This is likely not the case with engine computers that adjust (optimize) things on the go, but in engines with fixed fuel and ignition maps it's a fact.

You'd be better off if they just gave you .9gal of gas and kept the .1gal of ethanol, instead of putting that crap in and making an inefficient mix. You can watch the MPG of a car increase a couple tanks after you get the E10 out. Even E5 hurts. Try to run the tank dry, then put in pure gas, and on the 2nd tank you'll see it (because the first tank was still flushing the ethanol out). Same thing happens when you use dry gas in the Winter.

Ethanol sucks.
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Fiatdude · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject:

There is e free gas at every small airport that sales AvGas - 100LL - even has a small amount of lead to lubricate your valves like the good old days -- about a buck more a gallon
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Syncro Jael · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:56 pm Post subject:

I just checked pricing here in Utah E0 $3.61 mid grade

Here is some reading for those who don't know about E10 fuel.

http://www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_engine_precautions.html
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