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hotshoe99
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 Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: squareback dash |
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| I finished up the seats. Thanks for the pointers on that project. They came out beautifully. Now I need to remove the dash pad to install a new one. Can someone tell me what to look for and how do the gauges come out ? Thanks |
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W1K1
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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the gauges all have a clip on both sides that you squeeze towards the gauge body and push the gauge out from behind the dash. I have a couple 12" flat blade screw drivers for mine, not enough room to get my hands in there.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:24 am Post subject: |
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From memory on my '71... earlies are slightly different.
- remove battery ground cable.
- unscrew fusebox from lower dash lip and pull downwards gently.
- remove left side fresh air hose that is in the way between clock and radio area.
- reach under and pinch the prongs at 3 and 9 o'clock while pulling the clock toward the front of the car, then while holding the prongs inward, push the clock out.
- next reach under and undo the speed cable if you can.
- reach under/through the clock hole and pinch the speedo prongs, same action forward to free, then backwards (toward you) to remove. unplug wires as you extract.
- reach through speedo hole and unplug connector assembly from gas gauge.
- same prong push/pull to remove gas gauge.
- now go looking for screws holding dash pad to structure. Some will be under metal lower trim, I think, and those at the left and right edges. Any other screws? This is as far as I have dug or remember.
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ALLWAGONS
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Disconnect battery, remove fuse panel, remove gas gauge and then the rest.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
From memory on my '71... earlies are slightly different.
- remove battery ground cable.
- unscrew fusebox from lower dash lip and pull downwards gently.
- remove left side fresh air hose that is in the way between clock and radio area.
- reach under and pinch the prongs at 3 and 9 o'clock while pulling the clock toward the front of the car, then while holding the prongs inward, push the clock out.
- next reach under and undo the speed cable if you can.
- reach under/through the clock hole and pinch the speedo prongs, same action forward to free, then backwards (toward you) to remove. unplug wires as you extract.
- reach through speedo hole and unplug connector assembly from gas gauge.
- same prong push/pull to remove gas gauge.
- now go looking for screws holding dash pad to structure. Some will be under metal lower trim, I think, but those at the left and right edges. Any other screws? This is as far as I have dug or remember. |
Very nice and well thought out Phil. Here's a little more to add.
There are 2 screws on the left side under the trim, and 5 under the right side trim. Most cars have at least 1 screw in the top corner of each side of the dash pad. Early cars used 3 more across the front, while 71 on cars got the front edge tucked under the rolled steel edge.
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RAIDER SS
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
Very nice and well thought out Phil. Here's a little more to add.
There are 2 screws on the left side under the trim, and 5 under the right side trim. Most cars have at least 1 screw in the top corner of each side of the dash pad. Early cars used 3 more across the front, while 71 on cars got the front edge tucked under the rolled steel edge. |
Nice job guys - and here's a bit more:
The dash is WAY easier to replace when the windshield is out.
The repo dash is somewhat smaller overall than the original, so it will be shorter than you want. If you tuck the front of the dash all the way under the rolled steel edge - it will not fit well around the gauges and across the bottom. Position the dash as a compromise of the visual fit around the gauges and across the bottom edge, and if there is not so much dash left to tuck much under the front rolled edge - so be it. If you use a few more screws to hold the dash along the front rolled edge, that is a more acceptable appearance than having a bad fit around the gauges and across the bottom. Paint the extra screws black. 
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Bobnotch
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
Very nice and well thought out Phil. Here's a little more to add.
There are 2 screws on the left side under the trim, and 5 under the right side trim. Most cars have at least 1 screw in the top corner of each side of the dash pad. Early cars used 3 more across the front, while 71 on cars got the front edge tucked under the rolled steel edge. |
Nice job guys - and here's a bit more:
The dash is WAY easier to replace when the windshield is out.
The repo dash is somewhat smaller overall than the original, so it will be shorter than you want. If you tuck the front of the dash all the way under the rolled steel edge - it will not fit well around the gauges and across the bottom. Position the dash as a compromise of the visual fit around the gauges and across the bottom edge, and if there is not so much dash left to tuck much under the front rolled edge - so be it. If you use a few more screws to hold the dash along the front rolled edge, that is a more acceptable appearance than having a bad fit around the gauges and across the bottom. Paint the extra screws black. |
Good points on the installation Dave. Those little tips will help someone out down the road.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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hotshoe99
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all of the help. Replacing the dash pad went well. I found that I had to do some trimming with a razor knife around some openings. Which was easier to do when cold and install easier when warm. |
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