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Agentwright
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:19 pm Post subject: Vintage racing type 3 |
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| So i have been a vintage racing fan for quite a while, i recently sold my 74 mgb gt which i ran in a few autocross events. I stumbled upon some AWESOME information about notchback rally cars and i must say i am having a very hard time not wanting to build my car in to a historic rally car. I have a very clean rust free newly painted 65 notch sitting on a IRS subframe. I guess my question is what can i do to improve the handling of the car? also does anybody have any additional information on the Harry Kallstrom notchback that took 2nd in the 1963 RAC rally? or any specific information on the cars and how they were set up? id love to see some more detail pictures if anybody knows where to find them. Anyway any thoughts or help would be awesome. check out this site if you havnt already |
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t3kg
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flyinglow94
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| Hmmm, 63? it looks like the Notch is a 64. Was it a race in late 63? It would be interesting to know more about the race prep. |
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Bobnotch
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You might want to contact Stonefish on here, as he's got a 65 Notch, that he hill climbs in SCCA events in PA.  His 65 also has IRS in the rear, as I've seen the car in person. It might give you some ideas on what you want to do.
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t3kg
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| Hmmm, 63? it looks like the Notch is a 64. Was it a race in late 63? It would be interesting to know more about the race prep. |
The rally was in November '63. Those were brand new 1964 model 1500S notches.
RAC Rally
November 1963
Pos # Crew Car Cls Pts Car reg
1 29 Tom Trana/Sune Lundstrom Volvo PV544 4 246 ?48909
2 52 Harry Kallstrom/Gunnar Haggbom Volkswagen 1500S 3 293 B40058
3 4 Erik Carlsson/Gunnar Palm Saab 96 1 293 P18385
4 21 Paddy Hopkirk/Henry Liddon Mini-Cooper S 3 306 8 EMO
5 28 Timo Makinen/J.M.Wood Austin Healey 3000 7 311
6 27 Henry Taylor/Brian Melia Ford Cortina Lotus 3 347 786 BOO
7 7 Pat Moss/Miss Jenny Nadin Ford Cortina GT 6 356 RWC 202
8 9 Gunnar Andersson/Douglas Johns Volvo 544 4 358
9 5 Don Morley/Erle Morley Austin Healey 3000 7 363
10 47 Carl Orrenius/Rolf Dohlgren Mini-Cooper S 3 376
11 45 Olle Dahl/R.Irwin Saab 1 388 (SS35/Rolled)
12 142 A.Andersson/P.G.Axdal Saab 5 390
13 6 Bengt G.Jansson/E.Patterson Volkswagen 1500S 3 396 B41299
14 143 B.Larsson/J.Larsson Volkswagen 1500 3 397
15 20 Peter Riley/Tony Nash Ford Cortina GT 6 411
16 32 Anne Hall/Pat Spencer Ford Cortina 3 423
17 8 Bengt Soderstrom/R.Roysson Volkswagen 1500S 3 442
18 33 Jean-Jacques Thuner/John Gretener Triumph TR4 6 472 5 VC
19 54 David Pollard/Tony Baines Sunbeam Rapier 3 522
20 36 Logan Morrison/Ross Finlay Mini-Cooper S 2 530 407 ARX
21 39 Terry Hunter/John King Mini-Cooper 2 543 997 FN
22 86 Andrew Cowan/B.C.Coyle Sunbeam Rapier 3 564
23 44 Bill Bengry/Barry Hughes Rover 3-litre 4 564
24 46 John Cuff/Norman Baguley Ford Cortina 3 578
25 68 Tony Cox/John Davenport Rover 3 litre 4 596
26 67 Alan Allard/Tom Fisk Ford Allardette 6 599
27 40 Ken James/Mike Hughes Rover 3 litre 4 601
28 105 N.Harvey/D.Cardell Austin Cooper S 3 621
29 72 M.Hinde/J.Barritt Simca 2 625
30 38 Pauline Mayman/Val Domleo Mini-Cooper S 3 632 277 EBL
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Mike Fisher
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A lot of racing car pictures in the Stonefish gallery.
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Agentwright
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| oh man, so excted! Also how rad is it that Harry Kallstrom in the notch beat out Paddy hopkirk in his Cooper S! That is AWESOME! I am totally gonna do the rally theme with my notch. this is gonna be fun |
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Willo357
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Here's a shot from the '63 RAC rally. Not the 2nd place notch but one of the other ones. Bengt Jansson, 13th place. Pushing the limits of the swingaxles right there.
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man this guy is on the ragged edge.... look at him leaning into the corner inside the cabin.... what a beautiful photo ! 
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