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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Spike0180 wrote: |
dude, Looking at your thread is reminding me of all the work I did on my bus this past summer, winter, and spring. God speed. You'll get there. |
Hi Spike0180.
I checked the forum trend that you create to document the restoration of your bus. It looks like you have done some restoration before & it shows on your bus. I envy other guys who have finish their restoration project(s) while I am still under my rusted project for a few years now. Progress is slow because time & money is limited.
This is the first time I am doing a restoration on a VW bus and I am struggling a bit. I don't have a choice but to keep on going even though my budget is tight and my work space is small. I do most of my work on my driveway and on the weekends only because I am afraid that the city code enforcement people might cite me.
I always check the samba forums on people who are currently working on or have finished their restoration hoping to get some tips from the pictures that they posted. I will definitely bookmark your forum as a reference for me.
Thank bro _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I have been struggling to bend metal sheet and I just figured that it would be best for me to just make a bender using simple metal bars. I went to a local metal hardware and bought a few feet of "L" shaped metal bars and two door hinges. After welding them together, I figured this home-made bender would help me speed up my work a little bit.
I also went to Wolfsburg West this morning and bought the front driver side JackOutlet. I hope to weld that in this coming Friday.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:01 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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ateneo wrote: |
Spike0180 wrote: |
dude, Looking at your thread is reminding me of all the work I did on my bus this past summer, winter, and spring. God speed. You'll get there. |
Hi Spike0180.
I checked the forum trend that you create to document the restoration of your bus. It looks like you have done some restoration before & it shows on your bus. I envy other guys who have finish their restoration project(s) while I am still under my rusted project for a few years now. Progress is slow because time & money is limited.
This is the first time I am doing a restoration on a VW bus and I am struggling a bit. I don't have a choice but to keep on going even though my budget is tight and my work space is small. I do most of my work on my driveway and on the weekends only because I am afraid that the city code enforcement people might cite me.
I always check the samba forums on people who are currently working on or have finished their restoration hoping to get some tips from the pictures that they posted. I will definitely bookmark your forum as a reference for me.
Thank bro |
Thanks, it ate up my life for a little over a year. And now its actually at the shop because I couldn't figure out what my problem was, and just got fed up.
This was my first restoration as well. I was lucky and had guidance and some help from my friend, who does body work and paint for a living. Feel free to ask my any questions. Also, I assume you have checked out the "Body and paint" forum here on thesamba?
Keep on piecing it together! _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I did some work this weekend on the bus. The progress is really slow but at least there is progress. The metal bender contraption I created made things easier for me.
I am using my other 1971 Deluxe as a template to do my measurements.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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camit34 Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2006 Posts: 1567 Location: Commerce City CO
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Nice work!
Fingers crossed mine will not be this rusted once I get into it... |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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doublea_ron wrote: |
Nice work!
Fingers crossed mine will not be this rusted once I get into it... |
Looking at the picture of your bus, I don't think it has a lot of rust. Nice bus. You will have lots of fun restoring it. Good luck _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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This weekend, I welded the inner rocker & also started working on creating the bottom part of the rear pillar. I used paper to create a model before cutting sheet metal.
It is so hard to work on my bus when the summer temperature is hitting mid-90's. It feels like it is a 100 degrees today even though it is just mid-90s.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I decided to slow down a bit on installing the rockers on my Westy because while I was putting together the rear pillar, I forgot a very important detail when doing the pillar--alignment. I had to re-do the pillar just to make sure it lines up with the panel.
I had to coat part of the pillar with a black colored paint that the auto body store claims it prevents rust.
I was reading about the spot-welders being the ideal tool to use when installing the rocker panel. Even though spot welders are the preferred tool to use, I am working on a limited budget that does not allow me to buy additional tools. Hence, I just have to use the plug-weld method.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Hikelite Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2012 Posts: 557 Location: Colville, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Thanks for sharing so much detail. Very inspiring for sure. Like many others, I'm starting to restore my Bus and the largest/scariest project is the rust remediation.
My rust is not as extensive though. None in body panels. Only the rear cargo and the front floor has damage. The rest seems solid. I guess I'm lucky since my weld areas will not be visible. Good thing since I only have a stick welder. I am reluctant to buy a MIG welder if I can make due with what I have. Also, my wife and I plan to move into the Bus after it's restored, so it would be another tool I have to sell or store.
Thanks again for this thread. I've learned a LOT from you. _________________ ~Kevin
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I took a day off today just to work on my 71 Westy.
This morning, I am faced with two options when I was about to install the short rocker next to the rare wheel well. First option is to cut the body to fit the rocker panel; Second option is to cut the rocker panel to fit to the body. Though cutting the body to weld the panel is the easier choice, I prefer to keep as much original metal on the bus.
Remember the rule: Measure twice, cut once? Well, I should have followed that rule because when I cut the panel, I made two trace lines with a pencil on where I will do the cut. I should have double check because, to my horror, I cut on the wrong pencil trace line. I had to weld a tiny piece to patch up my error. Darn!
I had to coat this area with an anti-rust paint. Hopefully the paint product's claim is true.
I just welded the panel and added a small 1 1/2 inch piece of metal patch on top of the panel to complete my work on that area.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Hikelite wrote: |
Thanks for sharing so much detail. Very inspiring for sure. Like many others, I'm starting to restore my Bus and the largest/scariest project is the rust remediation.
My rust is not as extensive though. None in body panels. Only the rear cargo and the front floor has damage. The rest seems solid. I guess I'm lucky since my weld areas will not be visible. Good thing since I only have a stick welder. I am reluctant to buy a MIG welder if I can make due with what I have. Also, my wife and I plan to move into the Bus after it's restored, so it would be another tool I have to sell or store.
Thanks again for this thread. I've learned a LOT from you. |
You're welcome Hikelite
When you start working on your bus, please do share your restoration project in the forum. Most of what I learned are from the samba forum contributors who are generous enough to share their restoration projects & the steps that they took to restore a particular section in their bus.
I am still learning as I work on my 71 Westy restoration project. Some of my mistakes are costly but I always ending up learning something from it. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I spent a few hours yesterday working on the rocker panel of my 1971 Westy. Cutting metal is the easy part of the restoration work. But aligning, adjusting and making all the parts look just right is the hard part. I don't even know if I am doing it right but at least I tried my best. Numerous little bits of grinding here & bending there burns a lot of the time. Before I know it, it is almost sunset and it is time for me to cook dinner.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I did some work on my 71 Westy during labor day holiday yesterday.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22463 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Knowing when to stop - come back later with a clear head is still something I fight with to this day. Having that insight will only yield a better product in the end
Good on you. _________________
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Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:08 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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It's cool seeing how much you have learned and improved since you began. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:02 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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notchboy wrote: |
Knowing when to stop - come back later with a clear head is still something I fight with to this day. Having that insight will only yield a better product in the end
Good on you. |
Hi Notchboy,
Thank you for the good advice Encouraging words from veteran VW restorers is always a good morale booster for amateurs like me.
I can no longer count the times I have stopped & walked away from this project due to frustration.....But every time I look at the face of my Westy, it seems to have these "sad eyes" asking me to rescue it from its stagnant state. I don't know if it is just my imagination or something but this bus just kept on encouraging me to continue restoring it. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:18 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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TomWesty wrote: |
It's cool seeing how much you have learned and improved since you began. |
Thank you TomWesty
I feel that I still have a long way to go on improving my restoration skill.
I have always found it beneficial to reference thesamba.com forum to learn from seasoned restorers who are generous in sharing their restoration techniques. One of these seasoned restorer is wrstp whom I admire when it comes to his ability to fabricate & butt weld panels. How I wish I could do my butt welds with the same finesse as his. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:24 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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That's looking great, nice work! And good for you not rushing it and taking the time to do it right the first time. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:26 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Give yourself LOTS of pats on the backs. You've taken on a BIG challenge that takes ton's of mental fortitude to continue forward with. Many folks get that deep into a restoration and then sell it all torn apart when they burn out.
As Notch stated, knowing when to walk away to breathe and recharge your batteries is a good thing.
Keep up the good work. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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busdaddy wrote: |
That's looking great, nice work! And good for you not rushing it and taking the time to do it right the first time. |
Thanks, busdaddy
There must have been a few thousand times when I would stop and ask myself, [i]"Am I doing this right? Is there a better way to do this? Why can't I find a replacement part for this section of the bus? How can I fabricate this weird section that was eaten by rust?..."
I am trying my best not to rush through this restoration because I had made terrible mistakes during the early months of this project. But sometimes it becomes a challenge when I see other guys with their pristine looking buses drive through my street trying to show off. They would purposely rev up their engines while passing through my house as if asking me, "When are you going to be done repairing that rust bucket?". [/b] Jerks! _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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