3.6R Supercharged

[wtcumby]

The last tumbler to spin in to place is the transmission conversion. Once complete Eion can perform his magic and crack this safe!!!
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[Crankey]

This will be exciting for sure.

[phlogiston]

i was just talking to eion yesterday and asked if he'd started on this yet. i live pretty close to his shop and am going to enjoy stopping by to watch this project go together.

[Subarugears]

Now THAT is going to be something special!
Have you heard how sexy these motors can sound?

Checkout this video of an EZ30R and Subarugears 5 speed in a Ghia.
This motor uses a Redline aftermarket ECU, harness and maps to make an easy plug-and-play conversion, including data logging.


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[Crankey]

sounds kinda like mine.

[tilstad]

Forgive my ignorance, but is this a stock supercharged motor? ( don't see anything resembling a SC in the picture though... is it a Porsche motor perhaps?) Or is it to be converted by some engine wizard?

Either way I'm interested in more details.

[240Gordy]

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68613
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"So, now that you know what you're doing, go to town."
2010 GOLF TRENDLINE 2.5
1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR

[wtcumby]

Tilstad, this is a normally aspirated motor in 2008+ Tribecas and Outbacks normally ONLY mated to a power stealing auto trans. Raptor in AUS is an aftermarket company that makes a supercharger kit. I just bought the charger, belt and bracket ($2k when China kills the AUD currency compared to the greenback) to keep costs down. Im sourcing all the other parts myself as the under hood area of a subaru is different than a Vanagon and won't fit.

My inspiration came from a YouTube video out of Finland. I tracked the owner and subsequent owner down to get real answers about reliability. The car had logged 50,000Km at 8PSI. They did this swap into a diesel legacy as high Hp = high driving taxes! sweeeeet Most all in the Subaru arena have turned their nose up at this power plant because boosting to 15+ PSI is all those guys can think of. I think the pseudo stroker is sick. The quad cam area is just an engineering marvel to me. I also love the sound an engine makes so driving a turbo car, while screaming fast, just doesn't resonate my driving bone. This is also an E85 engine so I won't need premium gas unless we wanted to make a tune for it.

55-100mph is pretty quick!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewtn8fv99yE

Goofing off in the snow
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FRH2d2gOBIw&list=PLF4-wglgUPT30M8LV9PryCztDXXpi5esJ

Tunnel Runner
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AXONSpAJ4
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[Crankey]

I can 'goof off' like that on wet pavement.

[tilstad]

Thanks for the clarification and additional details wtcumby .

Does this mount with any of the parts that's offered by the current engine retrofitters?

I'm looking into a 6 cylinder boxer swap myself, but after it was stated earlier this year that support was ending for the svx swap, I'm a little lost as to which direction to go.

Is there any main downsides to this engine over the svx or the EZ30?

[Crankey]

RMW's engine mount will work.

one downside to post '05 EZ30's is the need for aftermarket engine management. the added cost of the parts and proper mapping.

[wtcumby]

To address your direction you need to assess your budget. An SVX swap will be less costly because, like Cranky said, the Factory ECU is retained and the harness modified. This costs on average about $800 compared to $3,000 for an AEM stand alone + tuning. Depending on your state this may also be a complete deal breaker as a stand alone ECU is "intended for off-road use only". Here in OR DEQ does a tail pipe sniffer at varied RPM. Any Subaru engine will pass with flying colors.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQaQIQRBxk

I hope that we can focus on the positive and stay away from fear mongering about jail time and massive fines. If I can't drive my van Ill move to a new country. Do you hear that spy bots?

Im excited about the host of features and upgrades available on the AEM...come on admit it you have seen THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS when they flip up the passenger seat bottom and start tapping on their lap tops. One feature that stands out to me is the cylinder deactivation. I'm hoping to retain 20mpg freeway with 5th gear and 4/6 cylinders firing. The real cost of putting a boxer 6 into the van is its stock 4speed killing capability. Subagears and Dave Clymer have solved the issue with the ability to mate a Subaru 5MT. It ends up to be very costly.
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[angrychicken]

Saw this at Ion's shop.
That thing is going to be a beast!

[wtcumby]

Please post your wheelie and burn-out vids Crankey. I deem them necessary to kick up some cheerful but exuberant gear head spirit and hopefully with out excommunicating ourselves from this community
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[Crankey]

ha ! I don't have vids. I've just used the horsepower to break traction and sort of burnout around a tight U turn on a wet day a few times. no other cars were around...but it was very slow and controlled. I don't really use the power cause I don't want to break anything or chip teeth off my gears.

I don't hang out with a bunch of dudes making vids of myself trying to break things.

[angrychicken]

Are you planning on using a stock subaru 5spd?
What are you plans to handle that power/torque?

[wtcumby]

I will be using a 2008 WRX 5MT I found on eBay. It was dubbed a conversion trans with all the cross members and wiring harness to swap into an RS I imagine. It does have a kartboy short shift kit on it so I hope its in good shape. The donor car had 70,000 miles on it. In addition to the trans you will need two kits. One from David Clymer for vanagon specific mounting, linkages, ect. and Subagears for their kit which has the reverse cut r/p gears, suba spools, and a nose piece to cover the hole left after turning an AWD trans into a 2WD trans. You can also just buy the whole trans from Subagears and then get a kit from David Clymer. I have heard there is a synchro running around with it attached to both front and rear...
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[Subarugears]

shhhhhhh about Syncros...you will get everyone excited.

You should note that the earlier EZ30D 3.0 6 cyl engine from Subaru is an OBD1 ECU so is the same sort of setup when it comes to stripping the harness and using the stock Subaru ECU to run the motor as the EG33 was. I see this as a simple continuation of the EG33 setups that people love, only with a touch less horsepower and a touch less weight and size. Good things IMHO.

It's the later EZ30R and EZ36R that are OBD2 and also mainly CANbus setups which require aftermarket ECU. (at this stage).
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[wtcumby]

I think most everyone can agree that in truly hot weather the rear mounted AC is worthless for passengers in the front seats. In taking air from the rear and blowing out the front creates a frigid circle of air for any folks stuck in the back. Why not make that AC knob do something useful like reduce inlet air temperature to the motor via the intercooler? Many have thought of this but Im not sure any vanagons have tried it?

http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jmce/papers/vol2-issue3/F0233844.pdf

I was hoping there are some AC specialists on the forum that could help in re routing the plumbing to accomplish this. I was already going to run a front mount radiator and a WAIC (hope it will fit with out deck lid mods!). Could the AC cooling capability be in addition to that so I don't have to run the AC all the time? There will still be the full time electric pump circulating water to the radiator and back to the intercooler. Could the front mount radiator be eliminated? Please chime in AC gurus

http://www.ejbowman.co.uk/products/ShellandTubeHeatExchangers.htm
This could be used to chill or not chill the fluid coming from the front mount radiator and going to the intercooler. The shell side would have the flowing cold charged A/C fluid. The tube would have the water coming from radiator and heading to intercooler? UPDATE this heat exchanger can not run refrigerant. Found one or two that can below.

http://www.activeinterchiller.com/6201.html
UPDATE after doing some searching this came up.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjtCOtow0U

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJKbodPnmo
A few YouTube vids with a Camero and a Cadilac. It really works well and cools down a lot quicker than I imagined!




This will lower intake temp by 40-50 degrees and allow you to run your cabin AC at the same time. GENIUS!?
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[Crankey]

so the 5MT can be tied into an aftermarket ecu so the display can show what gear your in and...probably other stuff ?