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JanS Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 15 Location: Pittsburgh Pa.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: Beetle oil capacity |
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The manuals say 2 1/2 quarts with no mention of a filter? I drained my 59 with a later model Brazil engine and it looked like 4 or 5 came out. After draining and replacing the filter and adding 2 1/2 quarts the oil didn't even touch the bottom of the stick? It's a chrome after market stick but how could it be off a good 3 inches??? Thanks! |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10399 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Beetle oil capacity |
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JanS wrote: |
The manuals say 2 1/2 quarts with no mention of a filter? I drained my 59 with a later model Brazil engine and it looked like 4 or 5 came out. After draining and replacing the filter and adding 2 1/2 quarts the oil didn't even touch the bottom of the stick? It's a chrome after market stick but how could it be off a good 3 inches??? Thanks! |
Do you have a deep sump attached? And a full flow oil filter? This would add at least 1-1.5 quarts of oil.
The fact that you say you "replaced the filter" makes me think this is what you have _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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if it has a filter it needs more. Are there long hoses to the filter or is it screwed onto the oil pump?probably needs another quart. |
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JanS Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 15 Location: Pittsburgh Pa.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:11 am Post subject: re |
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Here's a picture of what I have |
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BugMan114 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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that's an aftermarket sump. it uses about 3 quarts by itself. Just fill it up to the full mark on the dipstick _________________ 1974 Super Beetle: Custom resto in progress
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:49 am Post subject: |
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It's a Scat 1.5qt sump, so put in 3.5 quarts and top up after checking the dipstick. _________________ Glenn
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JanS Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:58 am Post subject: Re |
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Might take less. Just measured it. It's 10 X 9 and only 1 1/4 thick. Probably the reason I was getting blow by as it being overfilled. Couldn't find one listed that size? |
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68IHscout Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Re |
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JanS wrote: |
Might take less. Just measured it. It's 10 X 9 and only 1 1/4 thick. Probably the reason I was getting blow by as it being overfilled. Couldn't find one listed that size? |
well how ever much it takes to be within fill line on stick ,...if its a spin on filter start engine after oil change let it run a few minutes , turn offf ,,in 5 minutes recheck oil stick.. |
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JanS Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:28 pm Post subject: Re |
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Ok the stock engine is 2 1/2 quarts, this sump looks like the 1 1/2 quart. So how about if I go with 4 quarts and use that as the full mark on the stick? The chrome stick that's in there is probably for an engine without a sump. It measures 6 inches. |
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68IHscout Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Re |
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JanS wrote: |
Ok the stock engine is 2 1/2 quarts, this sump looks like the 1 1/2 quart. So how about if I go with 4 quarts and use that as the full mark on the stick? The chrome stick that's in there is probably for an engine without a sump. It measures 6 inches. |
I could be wrong , but even with the stock stick and the added sump, you should go to the fill line on the stick , ....if it was any longer , the fill line would sit at the same spot as stock.... |
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Aussiebug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Re |
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JanS wrote: |
Ok the stock engine is 2 1/2 quarts, this sump looks like the 1 1/2 quart. So how about if I go with 4 quarts and use that as the full mark on the stick? The chrome stick that's in there is probably for an engine without a sump. It measures 6 inches. |
The existence of a deep sump has nothing to do with the length of the dipstick, since the max oil level will be the same in either case (just the quantity to get to that height changes).
As you say, try 4 quarts and check the oil level on the stick - if it needs a little more to get to the oil level up to the full mark, then put a little more in. _________________ Rob
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VWCOOL Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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...yes and MAKE SURE THE DIPSTICK IS a Beetle one and not chopped down from a Chevvy or something ! (it happens...)
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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VWCOOL wrote: |
...yes and MAKE SURE THE DISPTICK IS a Beetle one and not chopped down from a Chevvy or something ! (it happens...) |
I'd hate having my dipstick chopped down. _________________ Glenn
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