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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then there is also these for tails: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1412740

I don't have them, so have no input on them though...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using these http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/s-series-b...tower/526/ as tail lights and brake lights in my Vanagon. They are actually TOO BRIGHT for my tail lights, and the brake lights are BRIGHTER than the incandescent bulbs I replaced. Very, very good.

I will be using the dual-intensity version (1157) in my splitty once I confirm the sizing will work: http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/s-series-b...ower-/814/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got these in my 60 double cab and they are awesome. They use your existing lenses, and bezels so from the outside you can't tell, but inside they replace the whole housing. Going to install in my 61 camper also. SUPER bright. And relatively cheep. This was the best price I could find on them on the web.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I convince you guys to shoot and post pics? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found a bulb chart.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: Dome light or license plate light bulb Reply with quote

This bulb looks like the best led replacement for a dome light, or an "up to '57" license plate light bulb.

From what I can find, the original bulb is a 4410.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you know your part number, JBugs has good prices
http://www.jbugs.com/category/vw-headlights-bulbs.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrPolak wrote:
I will be using the dual-intensity version (1157) in my splitty once I confirm the sizing will work: http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/s-series-b...ower-/814/


I just ordered a pair for my splitty last night. I'll post comparison pics once they arrive. My order included all exterior lights except headlights. Details to follow.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: LED parts-list Reply with quote

SambaUser1M wrote:
Found a bulb chart.


Here's a list of the LED "bulbs" I ordered for a 12V '58 Single Cab with (Barndoor) 3rd brake light & festoon license plate bulb, and add-on Hella reverse lights.


Front turn signals - 2 x Amber LED
Rear turn signal/brake lights 2 x Red LED
3rd/center brake light - 1 x Red LED
License plate light - 1 x Natural white LED
Reverse light bulbs - 2 x Cool White LED

Once I get the free time, I'll post pics.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Test results Reply with quote

I spent the evening evaluating the light output of the bulbs vs the LEDs. In summary, don't waste your money on the Amber LEDs and don't necessarily follow the recommendation to order RED LEDs for RED brake light lenses.

The first test was simple. Ambient light was blocked from a light meter and the LEDs and bulbs being evaluated were placed in a fixture that always held the bulbs an equal distance from the light meter. Instantly, the amber and red LEDs fall short.
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The second test was just to see the max that I could get through the lens while moving the light. The lens was fixed, the bulb was moved around to get a maximum reading.
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For the next test, the bulbs and LEDs were properly fitted into the housing.
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After realizing the incandescent bulb produced a hot spot at the center of the lens, I moved the light meter off center 4" to see how the readings would change.
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And just so you can see what I mean by hot spots - these two images show the incandescent bulb's hot spot.
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Compare that to the lack of hot spot with the LEDs.
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And here's the reason why. You can see the filament of the incandescent bulb is nearly parallel to the housing. I checked other bulbs I had and this is a consistent assembly trait across the bulbs.
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Compare that against the LED which is definitely NOT parallel. And, when compared to the other 1156, the LED alignment was inconsistent.
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In summary:
    I'm returning the amber LEDs for a refund - no exchange!
    I'm returning the red 1157 LEDs to exchange them for white 1157 LEDs.
    I'm returning the red 1156 I intended to use for my 3rd brake light because its light output sucks. I won't run the 1156 white LEDs, because they're too long to fit behind the brake light lens.
    I'll run the white 1156 LEDs as reverse lights, as planned.


Final note - if you've read the that you shouldn't run white LEDs for brake lights, see if you can identify which photo is an incandescent bulb and which is a 7000k cool white LED.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

otis_bartleh wrote:
And then there is also these for tails: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1412740

I don't have them, so have no input on them though...


I have these LED tail light inserts and they work great on my 6 volt system (and I had NOS buckets to compare them with)
Here are a few pix.

Back side of circuit board
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Front side of lights
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Light installed (these directly replace the original tail light buckets and even use the original screws)
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NOS tail light bucket with normal bulb (6 volt). This is the running light.
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LED tail light insert (6 volt). This is the running light and the brake lights are much brighter.
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New LED lights shining in bright daylight.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:00 am    Post subject: LED TAIL LIGHTS Reply with quote

Just installed the coolest LED tail lights in my '67 Bus.
Company in N.C. called Technostalgia.

They're Unmistakably bright, easy to install, and the Customer service they give you is Super friendly!

They also make 'em for Bugs...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: LED TAIL LIGHTS Reply with quote

PapaG1954 wrote:
Just installed the coolest LED tail lights in my '67 Bus.
Company in N.C. called Technostalgia.

They're Unmistakably bright, easy to install, and the Customer service they give you is Super friendly!

They also make 'em for Bugs...


Have any before/after photos of your bus?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject: '67 BUS LED TAIL LIGHTS Reply with quote

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AFTER PICTURE ONLY.... You can see em a block away
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I have seen those on eBay and was wondering if they were good or not.

I assume they are 12v only? Their ads don't say and I have never got around to asking them.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also there's Culayer.

http://www.culayer.com/products.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

npbusguy wrote:
otis_bartleh wrote:
And then there is also these for tails: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1412740

I don't have them, so have no input on them though...


I have these LED tail light inserts and they work great on my 6 volt system (and I had NOS buckets to compare them with)
Here are a few pix.

Back side of circuit board
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Front side of lights
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Light installed (these directly replace the original tail light buckets and even use the original screws)
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


NOS tail light bucket with normal bulb (6 volt). This is the running light.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


LED tail light insert (6 volt). This is the running light and the brake lights are much brighter.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


New LED lights shining in bright daylight.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I just placed an order with Mr.Birk for a set of these LED's, I should get them in a couple of weeks. Mine will be 12 volt, I will be sure to snap some before and after shots to see the difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PapaG1954 wrote:
Just installed the coolest LED tail lights in my '67 Bus.
Company in N.C. called Technostalgia.

They're Unmistakably bright, easy to install, and the Customer service they give you is Super friendly!

They also make 'em for Bugs...


Brian wrote:
Also there's Culayer.

http://www.culayer.com/products.htm


For those reading, the Technostalgia ones are $100:
http://www.cool-leds.com/1962-73-vw-bus.html

Culayer ones are $200.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do those current LED arrays have enough resistance to heat up the blinker box?

(pun intended)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:45 pm    Post subject: Bus LED Tail lights Reply with quote

http://www.cool-leds.com/1962-73-vw-bus.html

Yes, I did not have to get any extra flashers. They worked fine, and I have LED 1156 or 1157 in the front. Whichever is the old style turn signal bulb, only LED. So that's the whole Bus on LED, no extra flasher.

This Company also has them in snowflake style for older Bugs...
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