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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 12:59 am Post subject: Lots of barney questions... |
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Hi all,
After five months apart, I had the chance to visit my barney this past weekend. The chap in charge of the metalwork is half a country away from me...
We have quite a few questions at this point, which I'm hoping you lot may be able to help us out with, please.
1. Is the bottom of the nose 'V' on a '67 the same as on a '54? Just that area on my bus was rusted away, so the best that I could at short notice was to get my '67 bus there for him to sample.
2a. I believe that barneys do not use the adapter plates between their bumper brackets and front bumpers, like on the later pressed bumpers. Is this correct?
2b. How big is the gap between the body and the top/bottom of the rear bumper?
2c. Are later rear pressed bumper brackets the same as barney rear brackets?
3a. What is the ivory pull-switch for?
3b. I gather that the large hole is incorrect and that it should have a smaller hole, for a starter button. Is that correct, and if so, what size and do any of you have the correct locating measurements, please?
Lastly...
4. All of the passenger-side door rubber bumper holes that stop the cab and cargo doors from resting on each other have accidentally been closed. Are these tapped holes, drilled holes with captive nuts, etc.. and again, I'm looking for locating measurements here, please.
Any and all info' would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you kindly.
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2176 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Lots of barney questions... |
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3a. What is the ivory pull-switch for?
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shouldn't be there, it is a later wiper or headlight or courtesy light switch. remove this.
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3b. I gather that the large hole is incorrect and that it should have a smaller hole, for a starter button. Is that correct, and if so, what size and do any of you have the correct locating measurements, please? |
seeing it is a 54 it should have the smaller Aluminum starter button, somebody obviously enlarged it to mount a different or earlier big button.
If I can find my starter button I'll get you the diameter.
the ribbed rear bumper mounts should work for all years.
front bumper mounts are solid steel blade type like on a beetle, you'll find reasonable reproduction mounts in the classifieds. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:18 am Post subject: Re: Lots of barney questions... |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
Merlin wrote: |
3a. What is the ivory pull-switch for?
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shouldn't be there, it is a later wiper or headlight or courtesy light switch. remove this.
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3b. I gather that the large hole is incorrect and that it should have a smaller hole, for a starter button. Is that correct, and if so, what size and do any of you have the correct locating measurements, please? |
seeing it is a 54 it should have the smaller Aluminum starter button, somebody obviously enlarged it to mount a different or earlier big button.
If I can find my starter button I'll get you the diameter.
the ribbed rear bumper mounts should work for all years.
front bumper mounts are solid steel blade type like on a beetle, you'll find reasonable reproduction mounts in the classifieds. |
Many thanks, djfordmanjack.
I'll have my metal guy close up both holes on the RHS of the pod.
I've had a set of Brian's repro front mounts in the mail for two months already. The postal system... *sigh*
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Lots of barney questions... |
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Merlin wrote: |
Hi all,
We have quite a few questions at this point, which I'm hoping you lot may be able to help us out with, please.
1. Is the bottom of the nose 'V' on a '67 the same as on a '54? Just that area on my bus was rusted away, so the best that I could at short notice was to get my '67 bus there for him to sample.
2b. How wide is the gap between the body and the top/bottom of the rear bumper?
3. What size is the hole for the '54 starter button (djfordmanjack?) and do any of you have the correct locating measurements, please?
Lastly...
4. All of the passenger-side door rubber bumper holes that stop the cab and cargo doors from resting on each other have accidentally been closed. Are these tapped holes, drilled holes with captive nuts, etc.. and again, I'm looking for locating measurements here, please.
Any and all info' would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you kindly.
Nic |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Much appreciated, djfordmanjack. Thank you. _________________ the3rdrock.com - …musings, discoveries and postulating, by a restless itinerant in search of enlightenment.
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi djfordmanjack,
Excuse the daft question, but is the hole in the pod threaded or a clean cut? Your comment about 18mm vs. 19mm has me pondering...
Were you, or anyone else here, able to figure out the exact location of the starter hole, please?
My metal guy is due to close both of these pod holes, soon.
Also, all of the passenger-side door rubber bumper holes that stop the cab and cargo doors from resting on each other have accidentally been closed. Are these tapped holes, drilled holes with captive nuts, etc.. and again, I'm looking for locating measurements here, please.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I'm over a thousand miles away from my metal guy and have no other Bds around here to compare with, unfortunately.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
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otahuhu Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hope this helps I measured this of a 54 rhd, the 25mm is measured from the start of the small curve/end of the straight section, just out of sight in you're photo. From the end point (the centre of the hole) straight up 90 deg is 30mm to the seam in the pod. The hole is 18mm. As mentioned, the only other holes on this side, are the two oval ones on the bottom edge to mount the pod.
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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otahuhu,
I am indebted.
Thank you.
Any idea about the holes for the 'bump-stops' (cargo doors and body)?
Kind regards,
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otahuhu Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Nic, cant help with the cargo doors as my 54 is a single cab. sorry…A |
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, otahuhu.
Anyone else able to assist, please?
Kind regards,
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Scotty.
It's probably a safe assumption that they were centered then, vertically and horizontally.
I haven't seen my bus in half a year...
Are the holes simply drilled and then tapped (if so, what size thread?) or is there a captive nut present behind the skin? _________________ the3rdrock.com - …musings, discoveries and postulating, by a restless itinerant in search of enlightenment.
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Scotty Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:36 am Post subject: |
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On my bus (52) it's just a hole. You have to put a nut on the back of the door stopper _________________
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Merlin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Scotty wrote: |
On my bus (52) it's just a hole. You have to put a nut on the back of the door stopper |
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