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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all over the place Cool ,, so back to engine tin from what I've found i'm missing a crap load,,
See pics of tin i found that i needed (no idea what it's all called)
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But I need a lot ; please if some one can help me out in finding the tin I need , this what I have
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I need a bunch of tin Crying or Very sad & I don't know about the 2 made in China pieces I have, so if some one can point me in the right direction, i'm looking ; peace ,,only checking the samba every 2 min.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you're missing #'s 4(one per side) 5,6,7,8,8a, 8b, 26, and 29....

From what that engine pic you posted shows...

Did you say the engine builder kept/lost the tins??
These are the same as any type 1 tin.. Shouldn't be hard to find.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 2 china pieces replace #4 but if the number 4 pieces are not there you have to remove the heads to replace them or to install the china pieces. to install #26 you will have to remove the front pulley and cut and modify the sheet metal because of the oil line that has been added in the front. number 29 is not used on the thing engine 8a and 8b is used on a 73 engine a 74 engine has heater boxes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the reply Laughing OK I'm losing it.. #4 do you know what its called? The heads need to be removed to install those pieces??? If I go with the China ones , is it just the push rod tubes that need to come out?? Which one works better?? Is there some where ,1 stop that I can buy $$ all $$$ the tin I need, I checked out this site.

http://www.awesomepowdercoat.com

And there videos but I'm not sure if I can get the tin I need or what?? I'm going to try and contact them today..

Thanks for info , is very helpful.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry I did not see the adjustable tubes you only need to remove the pushrod tubes to install the china parts or to install the original tin under the cylinders they just distribute the air better around the cylinders the stock ones work find the china style was used on some type 3 engines also you will need to mount a oil filter somewhere so you can run a hose from the oil pump to the block.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK great, citroen you are the man , no need for sorry. Thanks for the info , I wish I knew half the stuff you know on these things, any time you want to come by would be great. Laughing
I've got the remote oil fill mounted on the left side already, so I should be good with that,, it's this tin that's giving me fits. Mad

If anyone has the tin I need in good shape I will pay. Or if you can point me in the right direction where to get it, I would appreciate it..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks I am just old and I have made I think every mistake on these things or maybe I have just forgot. Use the china tin it will work fine I have used them many times.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying on 8A/B, Dennis.... I couldnt recall those on mine, but dont have it here to reference....

Only spare tin I have is an original breastplate(with heat riser and heater tube hose holes)... I have a speed shop semi-close(50 miles) that will have everything you need, used.. he has Very fair prices..

Shall I inquire and see what I can get for ya?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GI Joe wrote:
Thanks for clarifying on 8A/B, Dennis.... I couldnt recall those on mine, but dont have it here to reference....

Only spare tin I have is an original breastplate(with heat riser and heater tube hose holes)... I have a speed shop semi-close(50 miles) that will have everything you need, used.. he has Very fair prices..

Shall I inquire and see what I can get for ya?


I would love that,, I just got sticker shock from awesome p.c. $$$+$
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here are the pictures of 8a and b on my 73 engine
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pic looks like that piece is under the tubes?? If I go with 5,6,7 they go below the tubes?, but piece 4 gos above??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veg-head wrote:
The pic looks like that piece is under the tubes?? If I go with 5,6,7 they go below the tubes?, but piece 4 gos above??
I will take a picture of #4 in the morning I am building another engine I will take a picture and 5,6,7 also
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to intrude, but here is #4 in situ.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway to get that piece in with out removing the tubes? ? Is that the only piece that I will have to take stuff off the motor to get the tin on?, except the pully, . This is what I get for having a dune buggy builder build my engine.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a few more pictures 1 using the stock thing tin under the cylinder and one with the type 3 style both will work
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the pictures, do you think there's anyway of installing either one of those two tins pieces without removing the push rod tubes?? Maybe with a little modification to the tin?? Maybe cut the type 3 style in half and slide them in, with out removing the tubes?? Confused Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey thanks for the pictures, do you think there's anyway of installing either one of those two tins pieces without removing the push rod tubes?? Maybe with a little modification to the tin?? Maybe cut the type 3 style in half and slide them in, with out removing the tubes?? Confused Rolling Eyes
No the shields need to snap into the cylinders
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the stock #4s with the locking tabs bent down or cut off so the tin can slide in above the tubes, then held in place with safety wire around the cylinders, but that would not be ideal.

I can't tell for sure on you gold pushrod tubes if they are two piece. If so, you could do as citroen said and remove the pushrods and tubes, insert the tin, then reinstall your pushrod tubes and push rods. Heads can stay put.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK thanks for all the tips and info,, took the tubes off and put the China tin up.
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Seems kind loose its holding on its own ,,but didn't clip and feels loose.?
The tin I have kinda sucks, and this Is just the start,, thermostat, stove pipe, pre heat tubes, dog house linkedge Question Question more tin ??more samba. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

once you get the tubes on it will be a lot more solid
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