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Tcash
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Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID
68-71 Engine Lid: Note how the body line (brow) ends at the license plate relief and the corners are rounded.
68-71 Engine Lid Latch: Note how the latching mechanism is a hook.
One screw is used to mount latch.
68-71 Engine Lid Latch locking: 68-70 had L-Code keys. 71 had R-Code keys.
68-71 Engine Lid Prop Spring: Note long length.
72-79 Engine Lid Prop Spring: Note short length.
68-73 Engine Lid Prop Guide: Rollers attached to body to guide prop spring.
74-79 Engine Lid Prop Guide: Made out of plastic.
68-76 Engine Lid Hinge:
E72 Engine Lid: Became smaller and license plate light got bigger.
Note how body line (brow) over license plate is straight and ends at license plate recess.
L72-76 Engine Lid: Note how body line (brow) over license plate is straight and ends close to the edge of the engine lid.
72-74 Engine Lid Latch locking: Note latching mechanism went to a lever and not a hook.
75-79 Engine Lid Latche: became black in color.
77-79 Engine Lid Hinges changed to wire design.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| 73-79 Latches became black plastic. |
mine is anodized black aluminum or a hard powder coat. It is not plastic. |
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Tcash
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| 73-79 Latches became black plastic. |
mine is anodized black aluminum or a hard powder coat. It is not plastic. |
Edited: Screwed up on the years as well.
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| '72 engine lids' brow over license is narrower than full width of 73 up. See the 72 only thread. Looks like license plate recess is different shape on later years, too. |
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Tcash
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| '72 engine lids' brow over license is narrower than full width of 73 up. See the 72 only thread. Looks like license plate recess is different shape on later years, too. |
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Thank you, forgot about that. I cannot find production numbers. But there was a mid year change between the short brow and the long brow in 72.
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Tcash
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Couple of questions.
I seem to remember the engine lid prop (spring) was moved to the left side at some point. If this did occur what year did it take place?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Thank you for posting this in regards to the engine lid prop size - I no longer feel crazy!
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Tcash
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Thank you for posting this in regards to the engine lid prop size - I no longer feel crazy!
Mike! |
I quess VW figured we weren't hitting are heads nearly enough on the engine cover. So they shortened it?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Thank you for posting this in regards to the engine lid prop size - I no longer feel crazy!
Mike! |
I quess VW figured we weren't hitting are heads nearly enough on the engine cover. So they shortened it?
Tcash |
The engine lid is taller (heavier) on 68-71, the prop rod got shorter to equal the reduced fulcrum point and still clear the hatch when open is my theory.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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| Tcash wrote: |
| kociela wrote: |
Thank you for posting this in regards to the engine lid prop size - I no longer feel crazy!
Mike! |
I quess VW figured we weren't hitting are heads nearly enough on the engine cover. So they shortened it?
Tcash |
The engine lid is taller (heavier) on 68-71, the prop rod got shorter to equal the reduced fulcrum point and still clear the hatch when open is my theory. |
Naw it was so they had less momentum when a gust of wind blew them down on your head.... I still am haunted by the echoes in my mind of my friend Scott laughing uncontrollably at just such a happening. The emotional scars may never heal...... 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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| TomWesty wrote: |
| busdaddy wrote: |
| Tcash wrote: |
| kociela wrote: |
Thank you for posting this in regards to the engine lid prop size - I no longer feel crazy!
Mike! |
I quess VW figured we weren't hitting are heads nearly enough on the engine cover. So they shortened it?
Tcash |
The engine lid is taller (heavier) on 68-71, the prop rod got shorter to equal the reduced fulcrum point and still clear the hatch when open is my theory. |
Naw it was so they had less momentum when a gust of wind blew them down on your head.... I still am haunted by the echoes in my mind of my friend Scott laughing uncontrollably at just such a happening. The emotional scars may never heal...... |
Oh man, PTSD relapse on that one for me, not so much the wind, but every single asshole who's trying to make conversation says "can I look at the engine?" and then proceeds to open it themselves before I can intervene, followed by the immediate SLAM! when they hit the end of the prop rod and the finger pull slips out of thier hands, grrrrrrrr!
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pioneer1
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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hi-I am restoring my 76 westy and bought a mint condition engine lid from a 77-79...so the hinges are different.
Is it possible or has anyone converted the engine lid hinge on a 72 to 76 body to the pin style on the 77-79?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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more pix.... it seems that it makes the most sense to orient the "hook" of the engine lid prop towards the battery. The prop will operate with the hook pointing either way, but in order to reduce the injuries the smarter people that replied to my question turn theirs away from the opening....
Folks do it both ways, and the pictures prove it.
INWARD FACING PROP HOOK
OUTWARD FACING PROP HOOK
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Orient it whatever way makes you happy, but VW thought it worked best facing the right (RH edge of middle pic below).
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| Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Why do some rear aprons have four mounting bolts at the back, and some have two?
I think my dented 71 apron has four, and I see some on classifieds that only have two. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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That's a splittie in the pic of the red bus above. But Bay aprons have 4 bolts until early 1971, then 2 were deleted leaving just the bumps where the holes go.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Engine Compartment Lid/ Decklid/ Engine Cover/ ID T2 |
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Hello, Don't buy one like the red bus...for a baywindow.
That rear apron on the red bus is customized(or for a split). On the early baywindows the mounting bolts for the apron is below the engine lid seal... Like on the yellowish bus shown.
And yes, 71 is the only year with only two bolt holes for mounting. |
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