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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have all the answers why did you start this thread?

Your passive-aggressive attitude about the opinions you've solicited is quite entertaining.


I still havent gotten any answers on why i started the thread... about the stated value... well i got some wrong answers and the insurance company has kind of answered them...


Still unsure about the salvage title bit, but we will see.

I updated cause i was asked for updates. Then we went back to day one stuff for whatever reason and a long lost of things that i havent done but should have... except half of that stuff has already been settled and the other half was long ago addressed

Its nice when people at least post that they didnt bother to read so at least their post sort of follows along.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At least he is trying to be helpful.


helpful - that's almost funny...

most of the input in this thread, aside from your own, has been on the side of 'helpful'...

even mine, at the beginning...

but since this has become more of a sideshow than an instructional thread and you've proven not to want, nor accepting of, help, why would I post anything even remotely helpful?


You seem to disagree with facts. That isnt helpful. I dont even know what to think of that. Facts are facts.

The lawyer i spoke to in july, as well as my insurance company, as well as the at faults insurance company seem to all be on the same page as me... but lets just go back to saying i dont listen and i should tell my insurance company about this and contact a lawyer and go see a doctor... nevermind the fact that the medical is settled....

This thread has become less than helpful for anyone. It seems when i update it as requested that i am just sent back to square one advice that disregards all thats been done.

I will let you all know when this is settled with the insurance and hope that if anyone ever runs into anything similar that they can get past all this bickering about how i dont listen and domt take suggestions to do things that i have already done.... obviously im just sitting here doing nothing and waiting for everything to just fix itself.


Pretty much!


So i guess youre just admitting that you dont bother to read or listen to things that were already done... so when i dont do them again im not taking your suggestion... got it.... lmao you guys are so helpful! Im glad you can come up with things ive already done and make it out like its your idea! Good job!


Not at all. i was merely highlighting your own very good synopsis of how every single one of your threads like this everywhere on TS seem to go. I'm sure it's just a case of everyone else being out of step, though.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plot twist:
Car gets reappraised and found to be undervalued - the increased value voids previous insurance policy. Owner is now forced to fight the 'driver-at-fault's' insurance company on her own.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright here it goes:

if all the named people TRULY agreed with you and weren't just blowing smoke up your a** you'd have a check and your car would at least be in process of getting fixed.......

no title = no salvage title. if they total it and you buy it back you still own it. that wouldn't be all that important anyhow if you intend to keep the car as the biggest thing on salvage title is it brings questions of how well the repairs were done.

i hate to be blunt but right now your best course of action may be to let YOUR ins pay off on your $10k agreed value plan and buy it back. or get a lawyer. but you've probably already screwed that if you've settled on the personal injury/medical as thats where a lawyer pumps things up and gets his share. he doesn't give 2 shits about if your car is sea blue and neither does anyone else involved other than you.

you had a $10,000-13,000 car in my opinion in the condition it was in my opinion so it's not like you are getting beat to bad on your own $10k agreed plan. i watched a NICE og 63 notch take months to sell from a local and it didn't bring $20k if memory serves and i'll honestly say it was a MUCH nicer car with a ton of og accessories.

i think i said way back at the beginning of this you'd probably have to pad your personal injury settlement to come out even.maybe on top in this.

the big lesson here is if you think others are worth $10k in the future have an agreed value of $12500 or such. let it be a lesson learned....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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alright here it goes:

if all the named people TRULY agreed with you and weren't just blowing smoke up your a** you'd have a check and your car would at least be in process of getting fixed.......

no title = no salvage title. if they total it and you buy it back you still own it. that wouldn't be all that important anyhow if you intend to keep the car as the biggest thing on salvage title is it brings questions of how well the repairs were done.

i hate to be blunt but right now your best course of action may be to let YOUR ins pay off on your $10k agreed value plan and buy it back. or get a lawyer. but you've probably already screwed that if you've settled on the personal injury/medical as thats where a lawyer pumps things up and gets his share. he doesn't give 2 shits about if your car is sea blue and neither does anyone else involved other than you.

you had a $10,000-13,000 car in my opinion in the condition it was in my opinion so it's not like you are getting beat to bad on your own $10k agreed plan. i watched a NICE og 63 notch take months to sell from a local and it didn't bring $20k if memory serves and i'll honestly say it was a MUCH nicer car with a ton of og accessories.

i think i said way back at the beginning of this you'd probably have to pad your personal injury settlement to come out even.maybe on top in this.

the big lesson here is if you think others are worth $10k in the future have an agreed value of $12500 or such. let it be a lesson learned....


So what do you know about the title situation? Are you going based off of what I have said or experience? I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car. Some states want inspections, I don't want to jump through hoops and hurdles.... I may not always live in a state that doesn't require a title. FL requires a title, and that's home... I don't intend on selling the car, but there are a lot of unknown factors.

I should have more answers this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car.


You might as well sell it to Elder Spook at AKK. I'm sure he'd rather rebuild it to please himself, than try and please you. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car.


You might as well sell it to Elder Spook at AKK. I'm sure he'd rather rebuild it to please himself, than try and please you. Rolling Eyes



Yet another helpful post. You guys are so awesome Rolling Eyes

Please stick to helpful constructive comments. There is really no need for this to be 12 pages of your bickering on how you would have handled things differently, how you would have made the insurance paid more, how you would have had the car valued more, and how you havent bothered to read where we are at on the process.

You cannot change what is and what should have been. You can only deal with the present situation at hand... unless some of you have a time machine and you are holding out on me... in which case lets just take me back to the morning that this happened and ill leave 5 minutes later and then none of this would have happened.
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I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car.


You might as well sell it to Elder Spook at AKK. I'm sure he'd rather rebuild it to please himself, than try and please you. Rolling Eyes



Yet another helpful post. You guys are so awesome Rolling Eyes

Please stick to helpful constructive comments. There is really no need for this to be 12 pages of your bickering on how you would have handled things differently, how you would have made the insurance paid more, how you would have had the car valued more, and how you havent bothered to read where we are at on the process.

You cannot change what is and what should have been. You can only deal with the present situation at hand... unless some of you have a time machine and you are holding out on me... in which case lets just take me back to the morning that this happened and ill leave 5 minutes later and then none of this would have happened.


It's not.

It's 12 pages of YOU asking for advice and then going "yes, but" on every single point, or obfuscating the entire issue, or meeting the very advice you asked for passive- aggressively or with outright hostility and crying "woe is me". If you already had all the answers, you don't need us. Just go do your thing.

Every single topic of yours in every forum winds up like this. Ever wonder why? What's the common denominator?
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I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car.


You might as well sell it to Elder Spook at AKK. I'm sure he'd rather rebuild it to please himself, than try and please you. Rolling Eyes



Yet another helpful post. You guys are so awesome Rolling Eyes

Please stick to helpful constructive comments. There is really no need for this to be 12 pages of your bickering on how you would have handled things differently, how you would have made the insurance paid more, how you would have had the car valued more, and how you havent bothered to read where we are at on the process.

You cannot change what is and what should have been. You can only deal with the present situation at hand... unless some of you have a time machine and you are holding out on me... in which case lets just take me back to the morning that this happened and ill leave 5 minutes later and then none of this would have happened.


It's not.

It's 12 pages of YOU asking for advice and then going "yes, but" on every single point, or obfuscating the entire issue, or meeting the very advice you asked for passive- aggressively or with outright hostility and crying "woe is me". If you already had all the answers, you don't need us. Just go do your thing.

Every single topic of yours in every forum winds up like this. Ever wonder why? What's the common denominator?


Youre right, i asked for help. I asked about the title issue, which no one really even attempted to address til this page.

I also asked about the car being undervalued because it seemed the insurance company didnt get that fact at the begining.. they get it now. Honestly since they have to do an appraisal anyway, who knows how this will come back.

I never asked anyones opinion about anything medical, though you all seem to think i need an attorney for that and that i needto sue them that way to get money to fix the car.

I also needed to obtain some parts i couldnt find.

I swear i speak proper english, but rather than try and help on the things i need help with youd rather share your opinions on things i should have done and things i didnt ask for help with. I try to be more specific and clear on this forum than anywhere else and come here as a last resort because of how you try and belittle the people who arent in your "in" crowd.

This thread isnt about me, its never been about me. Its about saving a notchback that is worth saving. If you dont want to help save the car because its my car, then fine, that just shows the type of person you are. But remember, i am not the only one reading and trying to gain knowledge from this thread. This thread has been read by many and sparked others attention to take action and make sure their cars are valued as needed so that hopefully they arent put in this position. You know what though? It happens. Someone else may likely be in this situation someday and i hope i n the end that they can sort through all the trash in this thread and find something useful.

Im not here to make money, i am here to fix the car. I fully expect that i will have to come out of pocket some to get this right. I already have.

You really know nothing about me. Yeah, i only post on here when i need something. That is why i come here. I dont have time to sit and browse the forums all day. I help people on other forums and in person all the time. I take care of people that would do the same for me.

If you want to judge me without getting to know me, be that way, but dont take it out on the vws and the usefulness of these forums for people to reference. A lot of you tend to gang up and decide you dont like someone and you spread the negative energy to other. A lot of you dont like me just cause others dont like me and you have no idea why! On top of that a lot of the hate is 15 years old! Get over it already! Life is too short to hold grudges against people you dont even know!

Now can we get back to the subject of the car and get off the subject of me? There are threads on me, so go find them and complain there!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VWGirl wrote:
Tram wrote:
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VWGirl wrote:
I don't want a salvage title because some insurance companies don't want to insure a salvage titled vehicle as a classic car.


You might as well sell it to Elder Spook at AKK. I'm sure he'd rather rebuild it to please himself, than try and please you. Rolling Eyes



Yet another helpful post. You guys are so awesome Rolling Eyes

Please stick to helpful constructive comments. There is really no need for this to be 12 pages of your bickering on how you would have handled things differently, how you would have made the insurance paid more, how you would have had the car valued more, and how you havent bothered to read where we are at on the process.

You cannot change what is and what should have been. You can only deal with the present situation at hand... unless some of you have a time machine and you are holding out on me... in which case lets just take me back to the morning that this happened and ill leave 5 minutes later and then none of this would have happened.


It's not.

It's 12 pages of YOU asking for advice and then going "yes, but" on every single point, or obfuscating the entire issue, or meeting the very advice you asked for passive- aggressively or with outright hostility and crying "woe is me". If you already had all the answers, you don't need us. Just go do your thing.

Every single topic of yours in every forum winds up like this. Ever wonder why? What's the common denominator?


Youre right, i asked for help. I asked about the title issue, which no one really even attempted to address til this page.

I also asked about the car being undervalued because it seemed the insurance company didnt get that fact at the begining.. they get it now. Honestly since they have to do an appraisal anyway, who knows how this will come back.

I never asked anyones opinion about anything medical, though you all seem to think i need an attorney for that and that i needto sue them that way to get money to fix the car.

I also needed to obtain some parts i couldnt find.

I swear i speak proper english, but rather than try and help on the things i need help with youd rather share your opinions on things i should have done and things i didnt ask for help with. I try to be more specific and clear on this forum than anywhere else and come here as a last resort because of how you try and belittle the people who arent in your "in" crowd.

This thread isnt about me, its never been about me. Its about saving a notchback that is worth saving. If you dont want to help save the car because its my car, then fine, that just shows the type of person you are. But remember, i am not the only one reading and trying to gain knowledge from this thread. This thread has been read by many and sparked others attention to take action and make sure their cars are valued as needed so that hopefully they arent put in this position. You know what though? It happens. Someone else may likely be in this situation someday and i hope i n the end that they can sort through all the trash in this thread and find something useful.

Im not here to make money, i am here to fix the car. I fully expect that i will have to come out of pocket some to get this right. I already have.

You really know nothing about me. Yeah, i only post on here when i need something. That is why i come here. I dont have time to sit and browse the forums all day. I help people on other forums and in person all the time. I take care of people that would do the same for me.

If you want to judge me without getting to know me, be that way, but dont take it out on the vws and the usefulness of these forums for people to reference. A lot of you tend to gang up and decide you dont like someone and you spread the negative energy to other. A lot of you dont like me just cause others dont like me and you have no idea why! On top of that a lot of the hate is 15 years old! Get over it already! Life is too short to hold grudges against people you dont even know!

Now can we get back to the subject of the car and get off the subject of me? There are threads on me, so go find them and complain there!


If you go back and look, I gave you exact, precise, proven- in- court advice on how to attack the issue of you having undervalued your car. It's right there- the sixth post on Page 1.

Did you do it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you go back and look, I gave you exact, precise, proven- in- court advice on how to attack the issue of you having undervalued your car. It's right there- the sixth post on Page 1.

Did you do it?


As far as replacement value? The adjuster was presented with print offs of similar vehicles for sale at the time he came to look at the car.

So far as I know everything that has been suggested was done aside from hire an attorney. I did speak to an attorney, but I did not hire one.

It is really frustrating being told by you guys that I am doing things wrong or that I am not doing things at all... when you are saying this about things that are already done.

And yes I have periodically looked at others for sale and added to that list. Should I have done it for years past, maybe, should i have had the car valued at more, yes. It was bad timing. I know that was my fault not getting it taken care of the day that i realized it was undervalued. Life happens. I stay busy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all this talk about being undervalued - really? Not numbers matching, the body and pan dont match, the paint looks amateur... I havent seen interior pics but I would assume it's not correct either
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just out of curiosity - has there been an estimate on repairs from AKK?
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I would love to hear more about this 'estimate' you have but haven't divulged to the rest of us?
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The estimate for the repairs is just that. The replacement value is just that. The value of the insured amount, well it is just that. We have all given advice & pointed out the direction to take. Due diligence is what will see this through. I think the insurance company that is to be paying for this is waiting & hoping that it goes away by itself. I have a truck in my yard that is just that. 2 years waiting for this guy to accept the total price & in 4 weeks the file will close & he gets zero.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to say this thread came about right as i was looking for insurance on newly completed car and helped with decisions so thank you.

but like driving past a unfortunate incedent along side of the road i keep coming looking back to see what the latest instalment of the samba soap opera has for me.

as busy as you say you are vwgirl you sure have speant a lot of time responding when you could be researching things yourself.

call your ins get your money and fix your car or buy another one. buy yours back if they total it and park it for the future maybe you will win the lotto and you can do what ever you want to it.

now ill sit back. Popcorn
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all this talk about being undervalued - really? Not numbers matching, the body and pan dont match, the paint looks amateur... I havent seen interior pics but I would assume it's not correct either


i've said the same thing a coupla times here if i'm remembering right. i know i said pretty much the same a few post back. with all the negatives reality is it's probably NOT undervalued at 10k. the fact that it's a sea blue N model means little when body and pan don't match and all the other factors.

i've seen nicer cars sell for less money..............
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I think we're done here. Any further advice is sure to be met with disdain.
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all this talk about being undervalued - really? Not numbers matching, the body and pan dont match, the paint looks amateur... I havent seen interior pics but I would assume it's not correct either


You know Erik.. you make a good point.

Is the car really undervalued at $10k? I think after reading up on it and finding the few photos I could, I think $10k is about top dollar on that car.

Early N body that is more rare than an S.. but not any more valuable, but on a later IRS auto pan.. with some rims.

What's the argument for it being worth more? Did it have an amazing original N interior with perfect dash? Custom 2110cc motor?
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