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KerryD Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: Anyone have a guess as to the manufacturer? |
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I got this included with a house we bought out of an estate. I'm told that the H4 engine code means 68-71' 1497cc but I haven't found H4 in any of the guides.
I checked dunebuggiearchives.com to see if I could narrow down the body manufacturer but I didn't have any success.
Any input will be much appreciated.
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like an early tail Sears Rascal. They were a clone of the first generation Manx 1, with the emblem bump on the nose removed and a single rib on the hood. I think they also had a flat back seat.
http://www.dunebuggyarchives.com/registry/rascal |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the driver was very tall!
After 40 years the engine code is useless for indentifying what you have. It's a dual port engine now, so not likely 1500cc any more.
Look for a VIN on the central tunnel of the chassis, in the back ahead of the shift coupler access panel. That will at least give you are year for the chassis. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
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Hecubus Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2005 Posts: 206 Location: Calgary Alberta
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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It is a great looking start. I have an early rascal (I think) and it has the battery well that is open on the front other then that it looks very similar. I wish my house came with a buggy like that. |
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VWCOOL Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 1821 Location: Down under
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hey that's cool! |
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truckdude Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2014 Posts: 148 Location: Beverly Hills baybee
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Q-Dog wrote: |
It looks like the driver was very tall! |
That is one funky looking top!
The ancient Firestones on the back are really cool and I bet hard as a rock. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Probably is a "AH" as it has proper 6 digits before VW symbol and the A after the VW symbol is not standard...
IF it is a "AH" its a 73-74 1600cc with 8 mm head studs and case savers...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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glassbuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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is that scoop on the hood added on or molded into the design? I need a pic of the dash to help with the id. Look on the underside of the hood for any Lincoln stickers or such. This could very well be a Sandpiper |
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KerryD Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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BL3Manx wrote: |
Looks like an early tail Sears Rascal. They were a clone of the first generation Manx 1, with the emblem bump on the nose removed and a single rib on the hood. I think they also had a flat back seat.
http://www.dunebuggyarchives.com/registry/rascal |
Thanks BL3
Q-Dog wrote: |
Look for a VIN on the central tunnel of the chassis, in the back ahead of the shift coupler access panel. That will at least give you are year for the chassis |
Great info I found it right away 2 1 4 1 2 1 0
And great catch on the engine ID, I sprayed a bit more brake clean and an "A" magically appeared.
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is that scoop on the hood added on or molded into the design? I need a pic of the dash to help with the id. Look on the underside of the hood for any Lincoln stickers or such. This could very well be a Sandpiper
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The scoop is molded into the body. I'll pull the hood and get back with you.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to help me out. Much appreciated |
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KerryD Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:08 am Post subject: |
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glassbuggy wrote: |
need a pic of the dash to help with the id |
The dash is pretty cheesy. And its actually riveted to the hood.
underside of hood looking at underside of scoop
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glassbuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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This is certainly an odd duck. I belive it to be a copy of a Sandpiper. Someone modded the hood to circumvent any patent with a simple scoop detail. Also the back seat was made to be flat like the later buggy designs ( to be able to use IRS suspensions ) keep looking for id in the backside of the fiberglass , maybe you will get lucky, but I think this body had a low production count. In that case it may have been a local fiberglass place to you. |
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truckdude Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2014 Posts: 148 Location: Beverly Hills baybee
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Windshield mounting and angle along with that riveted dash sort of indicate a later mod to accommodate that C-cab like top. C-cabs were a popular trend in the early to mid 70's. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:05 am Post subject: |
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IF it were mine, I would drop windshield down to proper position... Tease dash back into proper place (rivets while not the best are ok) ....Remove the little bits of white striping (is it vinyl?) and drive it like you stole for rest of summer.... This winter when its not buggy weather do any major work that is required.... Simple plate to cover dash area can make a lot of difference to how it looks.... Its not that bad, just needs a little TLC is all...
This is how I treated screwed up dash, my only mistake was it is highly polished aluminum (mirror finish), it is to hard to maintain... Power coat with pleasing color (silver or gray) would have been better)...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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BIGMIKEY Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: North East Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Drop those seats down 8" or 10" too. And lean that windshield back a bit. ( I never understood stock seats in a buggy. Probably because I am 6' 5" tall)
Good looking buggy though.
Mike T _________________ BIGMIKEY
Deserter Series 1 project.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=787047&highlight=
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20378 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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BIGMIKEY wrote: |
Drop those seats down 8" or 10" too. And lean that windshield back a bit. ( I never understood stock seats in a buggy. Probably because I am 6' 5" tall)
Good looking buggy though.
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Yeah, that too...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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