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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
Joined: July 07, 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Rust Belt
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:19 pm Post subject: Tig torch hand control opinions |
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I'm planning on getting a tig welder in the near future and I don't think a foot controller is for me. I'm thinking a east/west finger type strapped to the torch would be the best but hand operated amp controls are not well liked. I don't see how a north/south rotary or a north/south slide switch would work.
Thanks for your expertise! _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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Northof49 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2013 Posts: 1759 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Each to their own. Hopefully you can find what you are looking for. _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia owner |
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: I need to weld and run. |
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Having to sit down to use a foot controller is a big change from using a mig. Tig users must all have a multi position welding table I would guess. _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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Northof49 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2013 Posts: 1759 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:42 am Post subject: |
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At one time I simply had a push button trigger on my torch that initiated gas flow, hf start. After you broke the arc, it ran post flow for the set time, then shut down until you pressed the button again. That was on an Airco / Miller HF unit. With steel, you don't always need heat control, although its preferable. You can use a foot pedal, in most situations, if you have a stool to sit on. You just need a couple of stools of varying height. Wouldn't work if you are on your belly or similar cramped quarters. One of the reasons I like Mig, for simplicity of operation. _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia owner |
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
Joined: July 07, 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Rust Belt
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Dumb question: Are the foot controllers spring loaded or can you move your foot off of it and keep the setting that it was on before moving your foot? Are the hand controllers spring loaded as well?
Thanks! _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
Use all safety devices including a mask.
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22422 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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theKbStockpiler wrote: |
Dump question: Are the foot controllers spring loaded or can you move your foot off of it and keep the setting that it was on before moving your foot? Are the hand controllers spring loaded as well?
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Every one of the Tig units I've ever ran, shut off whenever you took your foot off of, or released the trigger on the hand held unit (tig torch). They're spring loaded to shut off the electrical supply. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Northof49 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2013 Posts: 1759 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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You can set the correct heat (amperage) at the power supply and simply run the torch without heat control. Once you get the setting figured out, its pretty easy to weld steel that way. It just takes a little longer to get the puddle started and you may have to push more filler in at the end of the bead to fill the puddle crater. _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia owner |
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MetalWorx Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Black Hawk, South Dakota
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Like everything, you need to get a feel for how each type of arc control works. All TIG foot pedals (that are in good working order) are spring loaded - think driving your car...
As far as hand controls, all that I have used are NOT spring loaded. Some are a rotary wheel, or slider, that you can modulate the amps, others are on/off and you set the amp at the welder. It all depends what you are welding as to what would work best. For out of position or awkward areas; if it is all the same gauge and gap, then a on/off hand switch would work fine. If you need to vary your heat thru the weld then the slider or wheel is best. If it is bench work I always use a foot pedal.
If I might ask what you are looking at(brand,type) for a TIG welder? |
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
Joined: July 07, 2012 Posts: 2316 Location: Rust Belt
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: thanks for all the replies! |
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If I might ask what you are looking at(brand,type) for a TIG welder? |
Well I wanted a htp 201 intertig but they only make a bigger version now and I don't think I will utilize with a base price of $2500 That leaves the thermalArc 186 and the Everlast 225lx. I have a well used Italian made century mig so I'm not totally paranoid about getting a non US made welder. I like the everlast interface and the reviews are good on it except for the supplied accessories. I could wait and see if the interTig 221 goes on sale but I really don't like the one knob interface on some of the tigs. I want to be able to do aluminum which makes the Hobart look too weak. _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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I did some research on the t4 option but it looks like it is for production work and I'm assuming that most welders don't even use it and rely on a foot pedal.Is the t4 option mostly a gimmick? _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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Northof49 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2013 Posts: 1759 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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What is a t4 option? _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia owner |
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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It's actually a 4t. There is a up/down slope and start/end current switches on the pannel.http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/tig-inverter-settings-part3.html _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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Northof49 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2013 Posts: 1759 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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That could be handy. _________________ 1958 Karmann Ghia owner |
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DWP Samba Member
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theKbStockpiler Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: |
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It looks like there is a decent market for a comforable hand-controller but making one, trying to see if a new chinesse tig is not defective and learning to tig weld are too much at once. _________________ My beetle is not competing with your beetle. I have the yellow beetle in my town. There is a red one, a green one ......
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