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dsherman Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2007 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:02 am Post subject: Driver Seat Adjustment |
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I am a big guy and have trouble getting in and out of my '67. What I would like to know is how others have solved this. (I know lose the weight) But since I don't see that happening soon what can be done. Don't want to drill new holes and relocate brackets. Is there other brackets that can be installed to the existing holes that allow travel further back?
TIA Douglas _________________ 1967 sedan 11x17 color wiring diagram completely redone available |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:32 am Post subject: |
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One of the worst design features of these cars was the early style seat rails! When the cars were hit in the rear it was common for the seat to come off the tracks and lay back.
In severe cases front seat passengers were actually ejected out through the rear window as a result of the seats coming off the floors.
With that in mind and the fact that you describe yourself as a “big” guy, there is probably a little extra load being put on those rails. So the force of your bigger mass acting on the seat rails in a rear end collision is going to be higher then if a 98 pound weakling was driving the car.
Many times we don’t like drilling new holes in these cars, or making modifications, but sometimes you need to look beyond that and make it fit you.
In this case remounting the seat to be stronger, safer and fit you better should be an acceptable personal modification. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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smkn_vw Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2004 Posts: 809
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I always wondered about this if it was an overlooked design because Germans are big too but maybe mostly thin big. I guess if you can weld, you probably can move the floor tracks further back, I'm not in front of one to see if it can be done safely, maybe floor modifications as well. A smaller steering wheel helps. _________________ "So didja?" -Bob Hoover |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:55 am Post subject: |
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The tracks can be moved on the floor. You just need to drill out the spot welds and reposition them where you want them. But it doesn’t solve the safety issue or the poor design of the tracks.
If you go this route, there are two things to be aware of. First the floor starts to slope away for the foot well in the rear seat, so you can’t too far before the front of the track is hanging in the air and no longer on the floor.
And the other thing is to make SURE you have the seat on the track and moved to the rear of the track BEFORE you start welding the track in. This assures you have room on the tunnel and the heater channel to be able to move the seat all the way back.
I had a friend a few years back that did a major high dollar resto type redo of his car. Powder coated floor pans. When it came time to install the seats they discovered the seat rail was too close to the tunnel at the rear and the seat wouldn’t go back. That isn’t such a big deal on painted stuff, but you can’t really patch or repair powder coat in this type of situation. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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smkn_vw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Sorry I missed your comment about doing it without drilling and relocating brackets. _________________ "So didja?" -Bob Hoover |
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smkn_vw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: |
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What about extending the existing floor tracks if you had spare tracks to cut up and join in place? _________________ "So didja?" -Bob Hoover |
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drscope Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:03 am Post subject: |
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smkn_vw wrote: |
What about extending the existing floor tracks if you had spare tracks to cut up and join in place? |
You can't go too far like that because they ramp down towards the rear and the seat would run into the floor. But you may be able to get an inch or two that way. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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shortride Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2010 Posts: 1323 Location: Oklahoma
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drscope Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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There is a spring on it that is supposed to hold the arm and catch in place. Maybe the spring blew up. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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dsherman Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2007 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Spring and all parts are correct. I am going to move the rails back. Just have to figure out how far. I am in the figuring stage when I do it I will post pics. _________________ 1967 sedan 11x17 color wiring diagram completely redone available |
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