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Jerry39218
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:29 am    Post subject: Clutch broke :( Reply with quote

Sorry guys..happened as I pulled into work this morning. (At least it waited)

Being at work I don't have the time to research the forums either

That being said.. something gave way. No longer any spring action.

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happened to us in RI, cable broke on the pressed-in threaded adjuster. I tood a piece of spare steel cable and looped it in the eye of the lever and clamped it to the broken cable. Made it home (600 miles).

Really depends where the cable is broken... Could be just the clamps gave up... Assuming you have clamps holding the shortened cable.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I can't get under it I'm not sure where that it. Going from memory when I repaired the front transfer mount.

I'm wondering if there is a spring on the bell housing?

The cable is still tight...just no return spring at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well..it appears I just got lucky.

Had a guy that works in the other building help me out real quick.

Bad clutch cable. Very frayed at the nut on the bell housing. Broke loose and stretched out.

Sad looks like I'm gonna have to borrow that tow bar at lunch after all.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably have something like this aftermarket clutch cable fitting(on the left). They will fray and break a cable in as little as a few months.

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It should at least be replaced with a pair of real cable clamps.

The best thing is to have a new threaded metric fitting swaged on the cable at the correct length

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=465764&highlight=clutch+cable+clamp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope.

I was going to order that tho.

Nah it's just looped around the arm with a wing nut and jam nut.

Frayed at the nut broke strands and pulled thru
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just get a new cable and loop the excess using 2 cable clamps and using the correct mating nut to the lever on the bellhousing?

Anyone had any problems having a loop in their cable?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will work fine and last a long time, they have the clamps at the hardware store. After its clamped, you can cut off the extra loop and just leave an inch or so extra cable on each end past the clamps, or you can leave the loop, it won't hurt.

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Use the correct VW cable wingnut

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool ...thanks. I had found that also. Just wanted to make sure it would work.

But...

It's still stranded. I picked up the towbar... but it doesn't fit.

Why does it not fit?

Because my front end is 29.5" across and most 64 beetles are 30.5" if the info I was given is correct.

Whoever did this I can't tell it's been narrowed. Lol.

Regardless I've gotta find a way to get this thing home before dark or it may not be here tomorrow Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be able to unscrew the grease fittings from the front beam to get the tow bar to fit. I noticed that about my tow bar, it will work with a stock beam, but if I install a 2 inch narrowed beam the zerk fittings would be in the way.

Jerry39218 wrote:
Cool ...thanks. I had found that also. Just wanted to make sure it would work.

But...

It's still stranded. I picked up the towbar... but it doesn't fit.

Why does it not fit?

Because my front end is 29.5" across and most 64 beetles are 30.5" if the info I was given is correct.

Whoever did this I can't tell it's been narrowed. Lol.

Regardless I've gotta find a way to get this thing home before dark or it may not be here tomorrow Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If somebody gives you a push to get you rolling you can actually try to synch the engine speed and trans and then just jam it in gear. Once you're going you can actually shift. Its noisy and scary and doesn't do the trans any good and it can be hazardous, but it can get you home in a pinch. To stop you just pull it out of gear and brake normal.

Another way to start is with the engine off, put it in first then just turn on the starter and release the key once the engine is running. You have to pre-plan your route and avoid stops and don't make yourself a traffic hazard.

Another way is with a long tow strap behind a friend's car.

Figuring out how to best cope with problems like this is actually part of the fun of owning a buggy. You'll also learn first hand why you should do every job the right way


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BL3Manx wrote:
If somebody gives you a push to get you rolling you can actually try to synch the engine speed and trans and just jam it in gear. Once you're going you can actually shift. Its noisy and scary and pretty dangerous but can get you home in a pinch. To stop you just pull it out of gear.

Another way to start is with the engine off, put it in first then just turn on the starter and release the key once the engine is running. You have to pre-plan your route and avoid stops and don't make yourself a traffic hazard.


I have done this in 2nd gear several times over the years.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grease fittings removed already. It's the main beams behind the front tube that goes to the pan that is in the way. Where the tow cradles sit is exactly where those beams are. And no..too dangerous to limp home like that with the route I have to take. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tow truck works pretty good.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lil-jinx wrote:
tow truck works pretty good.


Not so much where you break in a buggy, which is usually the worst possible spot to have it happen, like on the back side of a ridge east of Lone Pine
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's when you need to get creative
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creative is the right word for it.

http://dsb.yuku.com/topic/2449/The-Great-Forest-Misadventure

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lil-jinx wrote:
That's when you need to get creative



This creative enough?

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and here is the snapped clutch cable

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry39218 wrote:

and here is the snapped clutch cable

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Not sure what cme first but you may have a problem here... Looks like the clutch arm spring is also broken. It may have broken when the cable snapped but unlikely, those springs are pretty strong.

I don't like to see steel cables wedged like that, it's almost certain that they will cut over time. Either use a pressed on bolt or shorten by looping an original length cable with cable clamps.

Good luck with the repairs.
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