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ddixon405
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject: 1963 ghia MY Project |
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I am Starting a project car, thought it was a 69,, vin says its a 63.
vin in trunk says 1963
vin in body under backseat says 1963
motor says 1971 |
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c21darrel
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Altema
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| ddixon405 wrote: |
vin in trunk says 1963
vin in body under backseat says 1963
motor says 1971 |
Happens a lot, especially since back in the 70's a running engine was a cheap and easy swap. My engine is actually a VW/Audi replacement, but it's a good one.
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ddixon405
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any clue as to the 300 tag on it |
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jpjohns
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| ddixon405 wrote: |
| any clue as to the 300 tag on it |
Most likely used to say 1300 for the engine size.
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motorhead364
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Badge was 1300. That would have been the og engine size. Great little car. Mines a 63 too. They are a neat year. As I've found ordering parts they have the last of the early ghia stuff on them.
What are your plans. Body off resto or get it driving and enjoy?
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c21darrel
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ddixon405
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66 huh, damn, now i am lost, how can i tell the year, vin starts 4856xxx
1962
July 4 846 835 3 924 023
Aug 4 846 836 Start of 1963 model year
Dec 5 199 980
it does have the dual port ac
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motorhead364
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Brain fart, 1200 would have been original size for 63. Your dash looks spree 66 to me. Do you have a hazards flasher left of the steering wheel? What kind of door pulls do you have on the inside. The door mounted mirror makes me think 64-65.
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NWGhiaGuy 
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| Ghias never came with a 1300 badge. That spot would have had a VOLKSWAGEN script on it. Body looks very 1963 to me - last year of those front turn signals. The four-lug wheels are a mystery though. |
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KGCoupe
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| Ghias never came with a 1300 badge. That spot would have had a VOLKSWAGEN script on it. Body looks very 1963 to me - last year of those front turn signals. The four-lug wheels are a mystery though. |
Is that true for all Ghias, or just U.S. spec Ghias?
I found this image posted in the gallery here by Ghia forum regular pbaptist which shows the 1300 badge on a 1966 Karmann Ghia:
That particular Ghia features the rare Teak interior package, and I believe it may belong to Patrick (pbaptist), so perhaps if he happens to see this thread he can comment on the 1300 badge and its authenticity. |
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NWGhiaGuy
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| NWGhiaGuy wrote: |
| Ghias never came with a 1300 badge. That spot would have had a VOLKSWAGEN script on it. Body looks very 1963 to me - last year of those front turn signals. The four-lug wheels are a mystery though. |
Is that true for all Ghias, or just U.S. spec Ghias?
I found this image posted in the gallery here by Ghia forum regular pbaptist which shows the 1300 badge on a 1966 Karmann Ghia:
That particular Ghia features the rare Teak interior package, and I believe it may belong to Patrick (pbaptist), so perhaps if he happens to see this thread he can comment on the 1300 badge and its authenticity. |
That photo also shows a single reverse light on the rear bumper? That was not a feature on a '66 either. I honestly cannot speak to the authenticity of that car, not from a US standpoint (euro bumper too), but I don't think its a good example of an original US spec car. Either way, the vehicle in question is definitely not a 66 anyway. The main giveaways from the photos is the 65 and older dash (ash tray) and the 63 and older front turn signals (screw-on bezels). |
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KGCoupe
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| NWGhiaGuy wrote: |
That photo also shows a single reverse light on the rear bumper? That was not a feature on a '66 either. I honestly cannot speak to the authenticity of that car, not from a US standpoint (euro bumper too), but I don't think its a good example of an original US spec car. Either way, the vehicle in question is definitely not a 66 anyway. The main giveaways from the photos is the 65 and older dash (ash tray) and the 63 and older front turn signals (screw-on bezels). |
Agreed - the car in question is clearly not a '66.
As often happens, I'm afraid that I'm heading a bit off the original topic of the thread by questioning the use of a 1300 badge on non U.S. spec Karmann Ghias.
There's just so much to learn about these cars, and when an opportunity presents itself to pull out a pearl of Ghia trivia I'm afraid I just can't resist asking these off-topic questions. 
Perhaps the 300 badge indicates the Ghia in question is a previously unknown rare Spartan edition? |
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ddixon405
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the 300 badge was definitely a 1300, I can see where the 1 broke off..
does the AC or the steering wheel help locate the year,, I haven't seen any with either in pictures I have looked at
and can someone confirm, the image I posted with the VIN and engine code to verify I have those years correct
more pics of AC and doors and floor
only major rust I have found is the floorpans,, and gonna need new bumpers
and in the 300 pic,, it shows another hole over to the side, so the tag was longer I suppose
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ddixon405
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Dash
I have tried matching the holes to the volkswagon script that I found with car,, but holes dont line up |
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Bloku
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That A/C, who is it made by? I don't think they came from the dealer that year with an A/C option. It would be cool (no pun intended) to install one of those on my Ghia. Good luck with this build. It really reminds me of how my Ghia was when I got it  . Too bad that the A/C system was shot, and missing a lot of pieces. Also, any luck of to why it is 4 lug? One bus I found had a 4 lug hub in the back for no reason...
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ddixon405
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5 lug all the way around
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ddixon405
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I got a new battery,, and plugs and wires, dist cap and dist rotor..
was thinking about trying to start it,, any suggestions,,
was going to drain oil and refill before I try,
was going to run a hose from gas can to fuel line.
another question,, while I am waiting for a key for the ignition, can I hotwire old school,, just connect the wires off the back of ignition together |
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