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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:53 pm Post subject: Frame head straightening |
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Frame head straightening. Anyone know of a shop local to Los Angeles that has experience on straightening pans? My body is off, I measured it and it is off a few mm's from being square. The caster is off a bit also, 1-1.5 degree from side to side. I know nothing is perfect, what would be an acceptable tolerance? I want the steering to go back straight when turning. |
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kielbasa Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1443 Location: Garbage Grove, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Caster shims are your friends _________________ Gotta give my props to:
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have been messing with some. The problem is if I get the caster right the beam isn't square. If I square it the caster is off. I am trying to think in 3D but it isn't working. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Any body shop with a frame rack can straighten it out. Call around to a few and get some quotes to tie it down and pull it back straight. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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VWCOOL Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 1821 Location: Down under
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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If it is only a MM or tree, I wouldn't be too worried... jacking/pulling/heating the frame head square can be a big/impossible task and you will probably have to sacrifice a beam to do so
Yes caster shims will help, I have different caster side-for-side... doesn't really matter, as log as the wheelbase is within (let's say...) an inch each side |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I know nothing is perfect, my main concern is the steering returning to center. |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: |
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VWCOOL wrote: |
If it is only a MM or tree, I wouldn't be too worried... jacking/pulling/heating the frame head square can be a big/impossible task and you will probably have to sacrifice a beam to do so
Yes caster shims will help, I have different caster side-for-side... doesn't really matter, as log as the wheelbase is within (let's say...) an inch each side |
Being off a mm or two at the frame head computes to several mm's at the tire. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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It is about 5 mm off at the shock tower and between the top beam tube ends,from side to side. |
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my59 Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 3793 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:16 am Post subject: |
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From the shop manual, the allowable lateral displacement tolerance of the front plate is 2 mm. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lateral is left and right?? I need the fore and aft. |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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you really need to get a shop to look at it and straiten it correctly. VWs are kind of handicapped in the handling department to start with. A bent chassis certainly won't make it better and can make it more dangerous under the right circumstances. If you are planning on lowering the car or any other suspension mods, having a strait chassis is even more important. _________________ Chris
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