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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: Rear End Height |
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I looked through the various threads I found on the site and just can't seem to get the answer I'm looking for.
Please help as this is driving me crazy!
The rear end of my bus was low after installing a new (used) tranny.
I rotated the spring plate one notch on the outer spline and now the rear is about 3/4" higher then the front and the camber is considerable when compared to other busses.
What should the measurement be in degrees on the spring plate?
How can I measure the camber and what should it be?
If I want to drop the rear end down 3/4" what combination of spline (inner and outer) would be the next logical to try?
Thanks for the input! |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Spring plate inclination is as follows
Delivery van, Kombi, Micro Bus, Pickup 20° +- 30'
Ambulance 18° 40' +- 20'
Fire Truck 21° 30' +- 20'
This is the stock setting. |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Rear wheel camber is as follows, stock also.
Delivery Van, Kombi, Micro Bus, Pick-Up 4° +- 30'
Ambulance 1° +- 20'
Fire Truck 4° 30' +- 20'
Max difference between wheels 20' |
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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Thank you very much Jason.
Is there a way to measure camber with an inclinometer? |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:37 am Post subject: |
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The easiest way to get the height of the rear of the bus within specs, I have found, is to line up the bottom of the springplate with the stop on the torsion housing.
The torsion bars have 48 outer splines and 44 inners splines, so adjustment can be made as fine as ~42 minutes of rotation.
If you want your bus just a touch high, try to get a tiny bit of pre load (1mm)on the springplate before it contacts the stop and if you want it a touch lower, leave a 1 mm gap or so between the springplate and the stop. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:43 am Post subject: |
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It started out low, looked like a female dog peeing, so I raised the rear by rotating the spring plate down one notch. Now the rear is up, but the camber looks awfully drastic especially compared to other busses.
The frame rail is level and it looks like the camber is at 4deg, but man those wheels are tucked. Maybe I'll rotate the inner spline one notch the other direction and see where that gets me.
Any other suggestions? |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Have you driven it? I'm sure you probably know this already but the wheels always have more camber right when you let the bus off the jack. |
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 6250 Location: SBS headquarters: Missery
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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There is no simple way of getting your rear height correct. You can use the math method and hope you get it right. When I started lowering my VWs I've use this method:
Drive the vehicle and decide how much you want to raise it or lower it in the rear (you drive it to make sure the suspension settles in)
Measure from the lip of the wheel well on each side to decide (you have to measure both sides - what you do to one doesn't always equal out on the other)
Put the vehicle on jacks
Disconnect the RDG from the spring plate or not - just easier with them off
If the plates are resting on the stop, slide them out just enough for it rotate past the stop
Now measure from the ground on each side to the tip of the spring plate
Using a combination of inner and outer splines rotate it until the measurement at the tip is as close to the change you want
Bolt everything back together and drive it
I've used this method for leveling front to back and side to side. It works and it's not that hard. It just takes some time messing with the splines. _________________ Anthony
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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
One more question.....
When measuring the angle of the spring plate should the bus be on its wheels or up on jacks? |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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DubStyle wrote: |
There is no simple way of getting your rear height correct. You can use the math method and hope you get it right. When I started lowering my VWs I've use this method:
Drive the vehicle and decide how much you want to raise it or lower it in the rear (you drive it to make sure the suspension settles in)
Measure from the lip of the wheel well on each side to decide (you have to measure both sides - what you do to one doesn't always equal out on the other)
Put the vehicle on jacks
Disconnect the RDG from the spring plate or not - just easier with them off
If the plates are resting on the stop, slide them out just enough for it rotate past the stop
Now measure from the ground on each side to the tip of the spring plate
Using a combination of inner and outer splines rotate it until the measurement at the tip is as close to the change you want
Bolt everything back together and drive it
I've used this method for leveling front to back and side to side. It works and it's not that hard. It just takes some time messing with the splines. |
^^^ This. Exactly. No need to worry about spring plate angle measurements or to count the "clicks" on your torsion bars. Just use a tape measure, and some trial and error time. _________________ nothing |
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