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Superman74 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2013 Posts: 192 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:40 pm Post subject: Type 1 sedan cooling tin questions. |
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So I have lost my sled tins for my 73 super. all i have left is the doghouse cooler and its tins (less hoover bit) and the upper cylinder tins. I do not have a thermostat though I do have the bracket and I have the flaps in a box some where. I no longer have heater boxes and was wondering if I should run the Air deflector tins along with "super cooling tins" and industrial tins as well. I just do not know what the best solution would be. just a street sedan. |
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ALB Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2008 Posts: 3483 Location: beautiful suburban Wet Coast of Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: |
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The smart, or best solution is to locate all the cooling tin pieces the engine originally had. They work as a system and came on the engine for a reason, and you're not doing the engine any favors by leaving anything off. _________________ On a lifelong mission to prove (much to my wife's dismay) that Immaturity is Forever!! |
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Superman74 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2013 Posts: 192 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:26 am Post subject: |
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understandable. One of the sleds is a total loss from getting crushed, the other got thrown out. Also with J tubes I am told industrial sleds are the better option. Are these coupled with the "super cool tins?" are the deflector tin's(which I have) used no matter what?? and I presume the "super cool tins" just direct the airflow down over the push rod tubes and can be used in conjunction with the industrial tins. |
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75smith Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 2275 Location: NH
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:14 am Post subject: |
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industrial tins work with sled tins, cool tins work on a type 3 with a different cooling system
cool tins will not cool down the engine anymore then sled tins
do not run the square air deflector tins with cool tins
the best and only thing I recommend is run type 1 stuff on a type 1, type 3 on a type 3 _________________ My 1975 Beetle Build Updated 8-21-12
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VWCOOL Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 1821 Location: Down under
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:22 am Post subject: |
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^ what he said
ignore the marketing hype of 'cool tins'.. to cut a long story short, type 1 and 3 have different fan designs and therefore different cooling system design and plumbing |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16758 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:22 am Post subject: |
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If you cant find the industrial tins, you can make deflectors to do the same thing that attach to the stock sleds. I did this for our buggy. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15308 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Throw the "super cool" tin in the trash and use the stock tins. You can bend up some scrap metal and build your own industrial tins. The engine will run without the thermostat, just wire the flaps open. I don't have a "Hoover Bit" on any of my engines. I just fill the gap with a scrap of metal. You can tack weld or pop rivet to the shroud and it will work fine. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Go to the classifieds, search tins, sheet metal etc. you will find everything you need to have the proper cooling needed. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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Superman74 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2013 Posts: 192 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: |
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thank you fore the info guys |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2743 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Use a hammer and a chunk of pine as an anvil and your crushed tin can be whole again... |
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Juanito84 Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2012 Posts: 2436 Location: Colorado Mountains
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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The original equipment was on there for a reason. Sleds were used on Type 1's since the beginning. Yes, it can be modified to be better. But don't think cheap aftermarket stuff is better. _________________ If a water cooled engine cools its water with air, isn't it just an overcomplicated air cooled engine? |
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