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Superman74 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:23 am Post subject: Adapting Towel Bars onto a 73 super. |
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So the subject gives you the jist. This thing is custom so I do not feel terrible about the perversion. I need to figure out how to adapt the pre 67 towel bars to a 73 super. The car just has the cal-look T bars now. I have been diggin for weeks now and there was only samba thread with broken links from 2003. I am hoping someone can guide me here. |
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allsidius Samba Member
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Adapting Towel Bars onto a 73 super. |
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Superman74 wrote: |
... I need to figure out how to adapt the pre 67 towel bars to a 73 super. ... |
Correct. _________________ Brian
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Adapting Towel Bars onto a 73 super. |
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Superman74 wrote: |
So the subject gives you the jist. This thing is custom so I do not feel terrible about the perversion. I need to figure out how to adapt the pre 67 towel bars to a 73 super. The car just has the cal-look T bars now. I have been diggin for weeks now and there was only samba thread with broken links from 2003. I am hoping someone can guide me here. |
Towel bars do look nice.
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Mudpump Samba Member
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Superman74 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2013 Posts: 192 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Wow, those are some pretty passive aggressive replies there. I guess I should have asked what you wanted to talk about instead? |
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 3200 Location: Left of everywhere
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Superman74 wrote: |
Wow, those are some pretty passive aggressive replies there. I guess I should have asked what you wanted to talk about instead? |
I am not sure what a towel bar is on a vw. I mean I have a couple in my bathroom but none on my car. I guess my roll cage can work as one.
Do you mean a 67 bumper? Can't see that looking good on a super. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: |
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You can start by buying a set of the right pre '68 bumper brackets. You'll need to measure a pre- '68 car to get the target distance from the fenders correct. Then, it's really just a matter of attaching a portion of those brackets to the ones you've got. I don't know what a '73 super bracket looks like- but if they are the flat (non-absorbing type)- they should be pretty easy.
I used to see the later-to-earlier style bumper brackets at swap meets all the time. People are getting away from them as a style trend. I always think the look a little silly- as they adapt from tall to shorter (in height) with a taper on the top side. They may position the bumpe rat the right height overall that way- but the brackets I think would look better with an even taper.
Another idea for reference on what they look like is to do a gallery search under "Briz"- they often had tapered brackets on the late cars too.
Hope this helps. _________________
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mountainkowboy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2008 Posts: 951 Location: Socal
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I think the main problem will be that the curve of the front sheet metal is different than the earlier bugs. It could be done, but you would have to make your own brackets. _________________ Chuck in Socal
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allsidius Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2010 Posts: 1475 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Superman74 wrote: |
Wow, those are some pretty passive aggressive replies there. I guess I should have asked what you wanted to talk about instead? |
Come on, these are not aggressive replies. It was intended as a joke, while at the same time saying that it would not look good. Mixing year specific details is rarely a good idea. (One exception could be to put 68-73 Euro bumpers on an american 74 on car instead of the titanic 5 mph bumpers of american 74 to 79 cars)
The front of the Super is very different from the pre 67 standard. Also, the bumper brackets moved from the inside of the apron to the outside in 67/68, ie. the old bracket holes are in the apron for the towel bar bumpers, and in the fenders for post 67 cars. Thats a whole lot of trouble right there.
Most comments here are well meant, not aggressive. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2011 Posts: 1593 Location: Louisville, ky
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:02 am Post subject: |
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hooray, 73 bumpers are not shock absorbing. Buy the pre 67 bumper, buy a couple of pieces of thick plate steel. Make the brackets to fit the bumper. Welding might come in handy. I put a metal cutting blade on my table saw, makes short work of cutting thick plate. |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Adapting Towel Bars onto a 73 super. |
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iowegian wrote: |
Superman74 wrote: |
So the subject gives you the jist. This thing is custom so I do not feel terrible about the perversion. I need to figure out how to adapt the pre 67 towel bars to a 73 super. The car just has the cal-look T bars now. I have been diggin for weeks now and there was only samba thread with broken links from 2003. I am hoping someone can guide me here. |
Towel bars do look nice. |
On the cars they belong on..'67 and earlier...a '73 super is what it is,a fine driving and handling beetle that has honest clean lines in its stock configuration.. |
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Superman74 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2013 Posts: 192 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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I apologize for taking the responses the wrong way. I fully understand how incorrect this will look to those educated on the VW.
This thread was not created for the VW puritan elites. Rather, it is intended to take a very molested and tattered 73 super (destined for the scrap yard) and create a custom VW.
The dash is not original. The wheels aren’t original, the doors were converted to one piece glass, there aren’t any bumpers, the seats aren't original either. I bought a new custom dash, spent 6K on the drive line, and converted back to original glass.
When I was homeless I would go to the VA hospital weekly to handle my ptsd and other issues. This car is my only creative outlet and helps keeps me grounded. My 6 and 8 year old nephews are having a blast helping me and we settled on non-stock bumpers. I just wanted to elicit some help in seeing my project through.
I know you all can appreciate that. One day I will be better positioned to restore rather than pervert a classic. |
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Superman74 wrote: |
I fully understand how incorrect this will look to those who are stock nazis about the VW. |
There, I corrected it for you. BTW, I prefer stock but that's just my preference.
You DID say right at the start it was a perversion. On this site it's also called an abortion. But it's what YOU want to do. So IMO there's no need to apologize. Fortunately you got some constructive answers. Good luck on the effort. I for one would like to see how it comes out. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31374 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I've owned and worked on VWs for over 40 years, have subscribed to Hot VWs all those years. I have absolutely no idea what a "towel bar" is. Of course, didn't know what someone called an "Oh Shit" handle either, have enough issues trying to comprehend dizzy , mani, etc....that's usually reason enough for me to skip such posts... _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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NewTechnicIan Samba Member
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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or you can just drill holes in the stock bumper and mount the towel bars. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
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tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Damn... just put a link and a disclaimer on that picture.
Now where's the mind bleach? _________________ Glenn
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cusser wrote: |
...I have absolutely no idea what a "towel bar" is. |
The Samba dictionary to the rescue:
"Towel bars: Slang term given to the overrider portion of the bumpers on VW Beetles."
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/dic/t.php _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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