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Mr.Duncan
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 Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: Zimmermann Brake Drums (rear) CHEAP! |
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FYI---
Just noticed, you can get a nice quality set of rear zimmermann brake drums for your bug!
You know the other brand cheaper drums strip out the rear splines.
NAPA has zimmermann drums for around $85 EACH
Amazon has them for $55 each with free shipping...
http://www.amazon.com/Zimmermann-W0133-1621119-ZIM-Brake-Drum/dp/B001HQHZWW
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Tim Donahoe
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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You realize that I paid the big bucks for these at Napa a while back. $85.99 each+tax.
But at least I didn't have to pay postage.
These are good German drums, folks. Buy 'em while they're this cheap!
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Mr.Duncan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim Donahoe wrote: |
You realize that I paid the big bucks for these at Napa a while back. $85.99 each+tax.
But at least I didn't have to pay postage.
These are good German drums, folks. Buy 'em while they're this cheap!
Tim |
I just bought two. I'm surprised I got free shipping on 30 lbs
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VWCOOL
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I have noticed a BIG change in quality in these Zimmerman drums recently: The casting is poorer and the machining is rougher. I have not yet analyzed the material...
And the production numbers etc appear to be hand-stamped rather than machine-written and now they say "MADE IN GERMAN" rather than germany
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Mr.Duncan
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I have noticed a BIG change in quality in these Zimmerman drums recently: The casting is poorer and the machining is rougher. I have not yet analyzed the material...
And the production numbers etc appear to be hand-stamped rather than machine-written and now they say "MADE IN GERMAN" rather than germany
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Do they say it on the drum?
I'll check when they arrive.
Even so, I'd assume they would be better than others still.
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VWCOOL
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| VWCOOL wrote: |
I have noticed a BIG change in quality in these Zimmerman drums recently: The casting is poorer and the machining is rougher. I have not yet analyzed the material...
And the production numbers etc appear to be hand-stamped rather than machine-written and now they say "MADE IN GERMAN" rather than germany
Thoughts? |
Do they say it on the drum?
I'll check when they arrive.
Even so, I'd assume they would be better than others still. |
Pics here Mr Duncan:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.79157978...uploaded=7 |
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Mudpump
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Last set I bought were Sebro. No issues with them and less expensive. I don't think I've ever seen front Zimmerman's.
Do they make them? |
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DeathTrap
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If you go to "their website" you will see they are very proud of brake discs.
not much said for drums
apparently these are not what they were, or third world clones
deal with it and move on
either like it or find something else
ACDelco 18B162 Rear Brake Drum (amazon $30) buy 2 free shipping
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BUGGED11111
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Last set I bought were Sebro. No issues with them and less expensive. I don't think I've ever seen front Zimmerman's.
Do they make them? |
Looks like they don't for Supers. I looked through their catalog. For Supers they list rear drums and front disc's. So looks like they sell only European spec, which means the only drum they make is for rears on Supers |
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VWCOOL
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'Like it or find something else' is difficult in Oz as we do not have the choice that international enthusiasts have
It is a shame these trusted components have dropped in quality
And for me a lot of extra work as I manufacture big-ass brakes based on these components' prior quality... I will have to repeat the QC |
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Mr.Duncan
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Drums came in... All lettering is there... Looks fantastic too me..... Guess you got a bad set? Maybe a reject set that someone sold that were not supposed to be sold?
Not bad for $110 
just some grease:
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Northof49
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Awesome deal then!!
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Tim Donahoe
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My Zimmerman box is slightly different--as far as numbers go:
Yours say, BTVAG
Mine say, VAG
The 6001956.00 number is identical.
Then there is another number that differs slightly.
Yours 113501615J
Mine 113501615G
I'm going to pull a wheel and see if mine say Germany or German on the outer rim.
They better say Germany or else Napa is going to hear about it.
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Mr.Duncan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim Donahoe wrote: |
My Zimmerman box is slightly different--as far as numbers go:
Yours say, BTVAG
Mine say, VAG
The 6001956.00 number is identical.
Then there is another number that differs slightly.
Yours 113501615J
Mine 113501615G
I'm going to pull a wheel and see if mine say Germany or German on the outer rim.
They better say Germany or else Napa is going to hear about it.
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Let me know what the outcome is. I'm curious what it means.
You seem like the guy who keeps his receipts Tim
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Tim Donahoe
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I have every receipt you can imagine.
Two inches worth 
The guy who ever buys my bug will get the pudding with the proof!
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birddog1
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Looks like they just dropped the price to $52.85 Maybe they got nervous
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Mr.Duncan
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There was 40 in stock 3 days ago.
It's 20 now...
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birddog1
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There was 40 in stock 3 days ago.
It's 20 now... |
actually they have 18, I just bought a set, that I don't need. But always room on the shelf with the rest of the things I bought that I didn't need but nice to have good parts available when the time comes. If I ever stop driving bugs (not gonna happen} the classified are going to get busy or the new owner of my bug will get a parts dept |
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VWCOOL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Drums came in... All lettering is there... Looks fantastic too me..... Guess you got a bad set? Maybe a reject set that someone sold that were not supposed to be sold?
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Yes I thought of that... and returned them.
The second set I bought, elsewhere, were the same... |
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Mudpump
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Drums came in... All lettering is there... Looks fantastic too me..... Guess you got a bad set? Maybe a reject set that someone sold that were not supposed to be sold?
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Yes I thought of that... and returned them.
The second set I bought, elsewhere, were the same... |
Maybe "down under" all get their drums from the same distributer and that distributer is up to no good |
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