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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject: 1963 Ghia Reply with quote

I think I might have stumbled upon something special. It's a 1963 coupe. I bought it from a neighbor who's Dad bought it used in 1966. The Dad gave it to the neighbor 10 years ago and it's been sitting under a car cover outside ever since. But, the Dad really maintained it well so I expect it shouldn't be too hard to get running.

Numbers match.

Check it out and let me know what you think.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Nice
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice score! Applause
Its a nice colour and it looks very original so it would be a wise move to preserve as much of it as you can.

The mould seems to be a problem so you'd best clean it as soon as you can with something gentle like warm water with some of dish detergent in a bucket. A soft-bristled brush can lift away any mould from the vinyl surface is you rinse it often in the bucket. Wipe the vinyl surface with a clean, damp cloth to remove any soap residue and dry the vinyl with a towel.

Park it in the sun in a well-ventilated area to retard mould growth in the future.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice. Oxi-clean will make your headliner like new again. Change the belt before trying to start the car. Lots of luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks cool! Nice find.

The mould is nasty! An 80% vinegar to water solution will work on it and does actually kill the mould spores (and I think wouldn't be too rough on the original interior). Or another thing that could be safe to use is alcohol antibacterial wipes. The carpet will be harder...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all. First up is the mold for sure. Plan to try the vinegar and water first and if that doesn't work then probably try OxiClean next. If still have stains then perhaps one of the commercial maritime mold cleaning products.

Since it seems to have all the bits my plan will to keep it original.

I'm not sure what that means exactly yet. Clean it up real good and leave the flaws that it has? Or, try to make it look showroom new? Or something in between?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is from a forum that I belong to for my boat, hopefully this info helps you.

"I somehow got some leaves under the storage cover this past winter and had some staining on the small carpets in the walk-through area. I cleaned them using a standard household carpet cleaning machine in the spring and I thought I got everything out.


While on vacation last week, the carpets got wet with lake water, enough to kickstart the growth of whatever was left in the carpets from the spring. The smell was horrendous. What to do......


I filled a laundry tub with warm water and several scoops of Oxyclean. I let them soak overnight. By morning, the stains and odour were completely gone, much to my amazement. I really never had too much success with the oxidizing cleaners.


Once dry, I treated the carpets with Aerospace 303 for fabrics to give them a bit of stain and water repellency. I should have taken before and after shots! "
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anthracitedub wrote:
Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy.

X2 I think when you clean the interior and give a nice wash and wax that car will be a show stopper. I love an all original car. Once you get all the mechanical things fixed and running like new then your work will be done.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anthracitedub wrote:
Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy.


agreed! great find!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do don't restore it. Clean it up, get mechanical stuff sorted and enjoy. That is a great survivor car.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice find!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen this car and it is a beautiful car - nice find!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice find - but, why does the left front fender show a 'peak' crease at top of headlight rim, that the passenger side doesn't seam to mimic in the photos shown?

Also - see if there is a company in your area that ozone-treats the interior of cars to kill the mold. Alcohol/bleach/cleaners alone will not kill the mold.

http://www.envirofixinc.com/auto

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful original car!

I particularly like it as I also have a '63 Ghia - it is pearl white but I want to paint it that colour (emerald green/blue-white). It is not a common colour so great to see such an original example. As others have said, fix up the mechanicals and just clean/preserve the rest.

Yours must be a 'late' car with the fresh air motor, mine was built late '62 and has the stale-air motor.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's cleaning up pretty well. There must have been a leak so passenger side pan is pretty rusty, but still seems solid.

It's a June build date. Not much left of muffler so I need to order one. How do I tell if it's fresh air?

Is the windshield dual pane? Seems to be mold inside it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: windshield Reply with quote

The windshield is two layers of glass with a layer of plastic stuff between.Yours is starting to delaminate.Replace or ignore.Nice Car!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdoug wrote:

It's a June build date. Not much left of muffler so I need to order one. How do I tell if it's fresh air?


Mine is October '62, so an early 1963 model year.
Yours is fresh air as the heater uses fresh air that has not passed directly over the cylinders (picking up an oily smell along the way when the motor is a bit tired). The two flexible hoses coming off either side of the fan housing and into the tinware connect to heat exchangers that heat the air from the exhaust pipes. You can see the heat exchangers underneath the tappet covers on either side. Coming straight off the fan housing this air has not contacted the engine as yet.
With the stale-air motors (all 25/36 HP motors, and the 40HP up to the middle of the '63 model year) the air passed over the cylinders to cool them. The air was dumped out the back if the heater was not on, or directed into the cabin via the heater channels if it was.
In both cases the heater knob controls flaps that direct air to pass over heat exchangers, but there is no smell and in the worst case carbon monoxide poisoning with the fresh air motors.
I actually prefer the look of the stale air motors as they look a bit cleaner, but living in a warm part of Australia I don't need to use the heaters either!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's just a stunning car.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it's not really a "Survivor". I talked to the 2nd owner. He bought it in 1970. In the 90's some time he spent like $3800 on it to have it "refurbished". Sprayed, seats reupholstered, door panels, headliner, carpet. He didn't say, but given it's condition it looks as though they may have replaced the fuel tank as well. However, they did nothing to the engine.
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