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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:42 am Post subject: 1963 Ghia |
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I think I might have stumbled upon something special. It's a 1963 coupe. I bought it from a neighbor who's Dad bought it used in 1966. The Dad gave it to the neighbor 10 years ago and it's been sitting under a car cover outside ever since. But, the Dad really maintained it well so I expect it shouldn't be too hard to get running.
Numbers match.
Check it out and let me know what you think.
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djway3474 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2011 Posts: 2576 Location: The Real NDK So Cal
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Very Nice |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3907 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Nice score!
Its a nice colour and it looks very original so it would be a wise move to preserve as much of it as you can.
The mould seems to be a problem so you'd best clean it as soon as you can with something gentle like warm water with some of dish detergent in a bucket. A soft-bristled brush can lift away any mould from the vinyl surface is you rinse it often in the bucket. Wipe the vinyl surface with a clean, damp cloth to remove any soap residue and dry the vinyl with a towel.
Park it in the sun in a well-ventilated area to retard mould growth in the future.
Nicholas _________________ '66 Karmann Ghia Cabriolet...
'65 Porsche 356C Coupe...
2005 Mecedes Benz C180 Kompressor Estate
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Very nice. Oxi-clean will make your headliner like new again. Change the belt before trying to start the car. Lots of luck. |
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Karly Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2002 Posts: 641 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:40 am Post subject: |
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This looks cool! Nice find.
The mould is nasty! An 80% vinegar to water solution will work on it and does actually kill the mould spores (and I think wouldn't be too rough on the original interior). Or another thing that could be safe to use is alcohol antibacterial wipes. The carpet will be harder... _________________ 1960 Beetle ''Heidi" daily driver
1964 Karmann Ghia project |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy. |
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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all. First up is the mold for sure. Plan to try the vinegar and water first and if that doesn't work then probably try OxiClean next. If still have stains then perhaps one of the commercial maritime mold cleaning products.
Since it seems to have all the bits my plan will to keep it original.
I'm not sure what that means exactly yet. Clean it up real good and leave the flaws that it has? Or, try to make it look showroom new? Or something in between? |
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aero3113 Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2013 Posts: 196 Location: Setauket, NY (Long Island)
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: |
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This is from a forum that I belong to for my boat, hopefully this info helps you.
"I somehow got some leaves under the storage cover this past winter and had some staining on the small carpets in the walk-through area. I cleaned them using a standard household carpet cleaning machine in the spring and I thought I got everything out.
While on vacation last week, the carpets got wet with lake water, enough to kickstart the growth of whatever was left in the carpets from the spring. The smell was horrendous. What to do......
I filled a laundry tub with warm water and several scoops of Oxyclean. I let them soak overnight. By morning, the stains and odour were completely gone, much to my amazement. I really never had too much success with the oxidizing cleaners.
Once dry, I treated the carpets with Aerospace 303 for fabrics to give them a bit of stain and water repellency. I should have taken before and after shots! " |
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noah2burchell Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2012 Posts: 147 Location: morristown tennessee
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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anthracitedub wrote: |
Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy. |
X2 I think when you clean the interior and give a nice wash and wax that car will be a show stopper. I love an all original car. Once you get all the mechanical things fixed and running like new then your work will be done. _________________ Wanted: Anything from Risacher Motors VW dealership in Morristown, Tennessee or Westgate VW in St. Louis Missouri.
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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anthracitedub wrote: |
Looks like a nice survivor...I vote for a mechanical restoration and a hardy cleaning...then enjoy. |
agreed! great find! _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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lawn ninja Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 1009 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever you do don't restore it. Clean it up, get mechanical stuff sorted and enjoy. That is a great survivor car. _________________ Jason
My 64 1500 S Notchback project here
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Vcik Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 25 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Nice find! |
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sdinges Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2014 Posts: 85 Location: NC
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I have seen this car and it is a beautiful car - nice find!!! |
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Nice find - but, why does the left front fender show a 'peak' crease at top of headlight rim, that the passenger side doesn't seam to mimic in the photos shown?
Also - see if there is a company in your area that ozone-treats the interior of cars to kill the mold. Alcohol/bleach/cleaners alone will not kill the mold.
http://www.envirofixinc.com/auto
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Beautiful original car!
I particularly like it as I also have a '63 Ghia - it is pearl white but I want to paint it that colour (emerald green/blue-white). It is not a common colour so great to see such an original example. As others have said, fix up the mechanicals and just clean/preserve the rest.
Yours must be a 'late' car with the fresh air motor, mine was built late '62 and has the stale-air motor. |
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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:24 am Post subject: |
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It's cleaning up pretty well. There must have been a leak so passenger side pan is pretty rusty, but still seems solid.
It's a June build date. Not much left of muffler so I need to order one. How do I tell if it's fresh air?
Is the windshield dual pane? Seems to be mold inside it.
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berliner Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2006 Posts: 440 Location: west coast canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject: windshield |
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The windshield is two layers of glass with a layer of plastic stuff between.Yours is starting to delaminate.Replace or ignore.Nice Car!! _________________ I'm part of the problem. |
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:12 am Post subject: |
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jdoug wrote: |
It's a June build date. Not much left of muffler so I need to order one. How do I tell if it's fresh air?
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Mine is October '62, so an early 1963 model year.
Yours is fresh air as the heater uses fresh air that has not passed directly over the cylinders (picking up an oily smell along the way when the motor is a bit tired). The two flexible hoses coming off either side of the fan housing and into the tinware connect to heat exchangers that heat the air from the exhaust pipes. You can see the heat exchangers underneath the tappet covers on either side. Coming straight off the fan housing this air has not contacted the engine as yet.
With the stale-air motors (all 25/36 HP motors, and the 40HP up to the middle of the '63 model year) the air passed over the cylinders to cool them. The air was dumped out the back if the heater was not on, or directed into the cabin via the heater channels if it was.
In both cases the heater knob controls flaps that direct air to pass over heat exchangers, but there is no smell and in the worst case carbon monoxide poisoning with the fresh air motors.
I actually prefer the look of the stale air motors as they look a bit cleaner, but living in a warm part of Australia I don't need to use the heaters either! |
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irvanm Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2008 Posts: 609 Location: Lawrence, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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that's just a stunning car. |
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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:21 am Post subject: |
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So, it's not really a "Survivor". I talked to the 2nd owner. He bought it in 1970. In the 90's some time he spent like $3800 on it to have it "refurbished". Sprayed, seats reupholstered, door panels, headliner, carpet. He didn't say, but given it's condition it looks as though they may have replaced the fuel tank as well. However, they did nothing to the engine. |
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