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Fltblkbaja Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Kelowna B.C
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: I've done what I can, help please... |
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Hey guys,
I have a bit of a problem with my Baja, I have replaced the carb (webber 32/36) and distributor ( 009 ) for new ones and played with the jetting, mixture and throttle as well as the timing until it ran the best. And for the most part it putts around pretty well,
1st has no probs, lacks a little get up and go but pretty good.
2nd is great and has a ton of acceleration
3rd is fine if you keep off the throttle, but if you mat it, it Boggs out and has nothing for acceleration.
4th runs pretty smooth and has better acceleration, still not the best when matted.
No matter what gear your in, it hates a hill, 3rd is really bad on a hill. Again hating the acceleration needed to get up a hill.
I'm thinking that that 009 doesn't advance the acceleration enough when under full throttle to keep up. I have a vacuum advance dist. That I could try. But other than that I'm at the end of my knowledge and can't seem to get it to run the way I want it to.
Any thoughts? Something I've overlooked?
I know the carb and distributor set up combo isn't the best, but it should do better than the performance I'm getting. I'm also running a stinger and it seemed to run better when it had a true muffler, the lack of resistance could be a factor.
Thanks for looking! _________________ Everyone chops and drops,
We chop and lift!!! |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20380 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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First question, what is timing set at?
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Fltblkbaja Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Kelowna B.C
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't use a time gun or anything like that to time it, just the low teck method, similar to the one found in how to keep you Vw alive. With the la light bulb attached to the coil. _________________ Everyone chops and drops,
We chop and lift!!! |
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Absolutely Aircooled Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Chico/Paradise, California
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: 009 timing |
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Yea.009 should be set at 28-30degrees total advance. You need a degree pulley or a stock pulley marked appropriately for that. My humble opinion is that has to be correct before you move on. |
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Fltblkbaja Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Kelowna B.C
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I can order a degree pulley. What advance should a SVDA be set to? _________________ Everyone chops and drops,
We chop and lift!!! |
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muddbug Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2014 Posts: 70 Location: TYLERTOWN MS
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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if you are running a 009 that is not svda , _________________ It's better to burnout than to fade away ! |
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Fltblkbaja Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Kelowna B.C
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Muddug, I have a SVDA too that I could change the 009 out for. Should have been more clear I guess.
Can anyone walk me through the process for setting the 009 up to 28-30 degrees, once you have it at #1 TDC? Or does anyone have a good link?
Or should I concentrate on switching for the SVDA and set that up? _________________ Everyone chops and drops,
We chop and lift!!! |
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B Ramsey Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2006 Posts: 477 Location: Ramona ca.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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try driving with stock sized tires. i bet the problem is gearing. |
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Absolutely Aircooled Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Chico/Paradise, California
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: total advance 009 |
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With a timing light on and your degree pulley installed pull the trigger on the timing light. At this point you will be able to see the timing at idle. Next rev the engine while the timing light is triggered and pointing at the degree pulley you will notice the timing increases and at somewhere around 3000+ rpm it stops advancing. This is total advance and with the 009 should be set to 28-30deg. Go back and forth until you have it set properly. You have now eliminated timing as an issue and can begin to tweak with your weber which I have zero experience with. With tuning I long ago also picked up a tach dwell meter. This is vital to me in setting my points and tuning my carb. I found a used one at a yard sale but they aren't that spendy new. Dont forget to refer to your john Muir idiot book. This book alone has lead me through 30yrs of VW adventure. Enjoy!! |
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Fltblkbaja Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Kelowna B.C
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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That's awesome, "absolutely aircooled", thanks! Do you happen to know the degree range that is recommended for a vacuum advance distributor, in case I end up going that route? _________________ Everyone chops and drops,
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tripicana Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 1164 Location: colorado springs
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:45 am Post subject: |
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You need to post the 9 or 10 digit part number on the distributor to get an answer. Each distributor is timed differently. _________________ foam cowboy hats aren't good helmets. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2675 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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While you guys sort out his distributor I was thinking too tall tires also, but when I wen back over his OP it looks like the meat of his problem is he's running a Weber progressive which is what 32/36 means right? If so have fun. I hated trying to tune those things. I would concentrate on setting up that dizzy first but don't be surprised if your symptoms don't go away. WP's are famous for flat spots. _________________ Brian H.
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Absolutely Aircooled Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Chico/Paradise, California
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:32 am Post subject: vacuum advance timing |
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I have always ran a 009. I once had a Weber progressive and ran it with a 009. I switched to dual "baby" weber 34's and ran those with a 009 having good success. You shouldn't have a problem with the 009. I would try a different carb set up or get some hands-on help tuning your weber. If when you are setting the 009 you dont see it advancing properly then its your dist. See your idiot book on how to check the mech advance. Its pretty simple. Just take it out of the car and while holding onto the drive at the bottom twist the rotor. It should move slightly and when released come back to its original position. If it does not or it appears sluggish then you have a bad spring or its gummed up in there. Otherwise it is operating properly and should be good. I understand your problem solving with the other dist and you probably should so you know you have eliminated that as an issue. Thats my 10cents worth. |
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